Multiple Choice Kinematics Problem

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The discussion revolves around a multiple-choice kinematics problem involving the relationship between kinetic energy and tangential acceleration in various scenarios. Participants are analyzing how changes in kinetic energy correspond to changes in tangential acceleration, represented by the equation α = v(dv/ds).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the equation α = v(dv/ds) and its relation to gravitational forces. They explore different cases where kinetic energy increases or decreases alongside tangential acceleration, questioning the correctness of their interpretations and the relationships involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confidence in their choices regarding the correct option, while others suggest alternative representations of the variables involved. There is a focus on clarifying the meaning of α as the tangential component of acceleration, indicating a productive exploration of the concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential ambiguities in the equations and the assumptions underlying the problem setup, particularly regarding the inclusion of mass in the equation and the definitions of acceleration components.

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The Attempt at a Solution




## α = v\frac{dv}{ds} ## and K is the kinetic energy .


In all the four cases ## α = v\frac{dv}{ds} = mgsinθ ## where θ is the angle which the normal to the body makes with the vertical .

Fig 1) K increases and tangential acceleration α decreases ,so matches with P)

Fig 2) K decreases and tangential acceleration α also decreases ,so matches with S)

Fig 3) K increases and tangential acceleration α also increases ,so matches with R)

Fig 4) K decreases and tangential acceleration α increases ,so matches with Q)

According to me the correct option is (C)

Is this the correct option ?

Many thanks
 

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Vibhor said:

Homework Statement



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Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution




## α = v\frac{dv}{ds} ## and K is the kinetic energy .


In all the four cases ## α = v\frac{dv}{ds} = mgsinθ ## where θ is the angle which the normal to the body makes with the vertical .
I think you accidentally added an m in there that doesn't belong.

Fig 1) K increases and tangential acceleration α decreases ,so matches with P)

Fig 2) K decreases and tangential acceleration α also decreases ,so matches with S)

Fig 3) K increases and tangential acceleration α also increases ,so matches with R)

Fig 4) K decreases and tangential acceleration α increases ,so matches with Q)

According to me the correct option is (C)

Is this the correct option ?

Yes, your choice looks correct to me. :approve:

In case you missed it though, there is another way to express the \alpha = v \frac{dv}{ds}. Can you represent v in terms of ds and dt? if so, replace v with that in your equation and see what happens. It should then be quite clear why the g \sin \theta makes perfect sense. :wink:
 
collinsmark said:
Yes, your choice looks correct to me. :approve:

Thanks :)

collinsmark said:
In case you missed it though, there is another way to express the \alpha = v \frac{dv}{ds}. Can you represent v in terms of ds and dt? if so, replace v with that in your equation and see what happens. It should then be quite clear why the g \sin \theta makes perfect sense. :wink:

v = \frac{ds} {dt} and α = \frac{dv}{dt} which is the tangential acceleration .

Is this what you are suggesting ?
 
Vibhor said:
v = \frac{ds} {dt} and α = \frac{dv}{dt} which is the tangential acceleration .

Is this what you are suggesting ?

That's it. :smile: It was just to point out that \alpha is the ball's acceleration.
 
And yes, just to avoid ambiguity, \alpha is the tangential component of acceleration, as you have correctly suggested. :smile: (There's also a normal component, but that's not relevant for this problem.)
 

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