Multivariable Calculus proof for Optics

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The discussion revolves around proving identities related to vector calculus in the context of optics, specifically involving the gradient operator and the divergence theorem. The original poster presents a problem that requires understanding the behavior of certain vector functions and their singularities.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the gradient of a function involving the distance between vectors and questions how to approach the problem component-wise. They express uncertainty about handling the denominator in their calculations. They also raise questions about the implications of the divergence theorem and the behavior of the integral concerning singularities.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the mathematical expressions involved. Some suggest that the integral's behavior is dependent on whether it contains the singular point, while others challenge assumptions about the regularity of the integrand. There is a mix of attempts to clarify notation and explore the implications of the divergence theorem.

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Participants note that the problem involves proving identities that may lead to singularities, and there is a focus on understanding the properties of the Dirac delta function in relation to the integral. The discussion reflects the complexity of the problem and the need for careful consideration of the mathematical definitions involved.

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Homework Statement
Prove that the identity ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{1}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|} = -\frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3}## where ##\nabla_{r}## operates only on r, treating r' as a constant vector.

Next, prove that ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3} = 0## except at r = r' where a singularity situation occurs.

Finally, use the divergence theorem to show that the function ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3}## is ## 4\pi## times the threee-dimensional delta function: ##\delta^3(\textbf{r'} - \textbf{r}) \equiv \delta(x' - x)\delta(y' - y)\delta(z' - z)##
Relevant Equations
The Dirac delta function is defined indirectly as ##f(t) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(t') \delta (t' - t) dt' ##
The divergence theorem for a vector function F is ##\oint_{S} F \cdot \hat n~dA = \int_V \nabla \cdot F~dV##
Part A)

For part A I forgo breaking down the identity into it's component x, y, and z parts, and just take the r derivative treating r' as a constant vector. This seems to give the right answer, but to be entirely honest I'm not sure how I'd go about doing this component by component. I figure I'd replace the numerator with x - x' (or whatever direction I'm working with) but what would I do with the denominator? Would I just take the components there too, would I need to use the distance equation?

Part B) Really not sure what to do with this part.

Part C)

By the divergence theorem, I get $$\oint_{S} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3} \cdot \hat n~dA = \int_V \cdot \nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3}~dV$$

From part B, the argument in the integral on the right side must be zero except at ##r' = r##, which makes both sides of the relation zero except at that point. I'm sure there's a way to relate that to a delta function somehow but I'm not sure what it is.
 
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Blanchdog said:
Homework Statement:: Prove that the identity ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{1}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|} = -\frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3}## where ##\nabla_{r}## operates only on r, treating r' as a constant vector.

Next, prove that ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3} = 0## except at r = r' where a singularity situation occurs.

Finally, use the divergence theorem to show that the function ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3}## is ## 4\pi## times the threee-dimensional delta function: ##\delta^3(\textbf{r'} - \textbf{r}) \equiv \delta(x' - x)\delta(y' - y)\delta(z' - z)##
Relevant Equations:: The Dirac delta function is defined indirectly as ##f(t) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(t') \delta (t' - t) dt' ##
The divergence theorem for a vector function F is ##\oint_{S} F \cdot \hat n~dA = \int_V \nabla \cdot F~dV##

From part B, the argument in the integral on the right side must be zero except at r′=r, which makes both sides of the relation zero except at that point. I'm sure there's a way to relate that to a delta function somehow but I'm not sure what it is.
What does this tell you about how the integral depends on the volume V?
 
It will be beneficial for you to be able to decipher the symbols. It's really easy when you get used to the notation. You write
##\vec r=x~\hat x+y~\hat y+z~\hat z##
##\vec r'=x'~\hat x+y'~\hat y+z'~\hat z##
Then
##\vec r-\vec r'=(x-x')~\hat x+(y-y')~\hat y+(z-z')~\hat z##
the magnitude of the difference is the square root of the sum of the squares:
##|\vec r-\vec r'|=\left[(x-x')^2+(y-y')^2+(z-z')^2\right]^{1/2}##
The denominator is simply the magnitude cubed:
##|\vec r-\vec r'|^3=\left[(x-x')^2+(y-y')^2+(z-z')^2\right]^{3/2}.##
 
Orodruin said:
What does this tell you about how the integral depends on the volume V?
That the volume V is arbitrary, the only thing that matters is whether it contains the point r' = r, and so the result of the integral is really just the value of the function at the point r' = r? But that seems weird since it looks like that would set the left side of the equation to zero. Am I on the right track at all?
 
Blanchdog said:
That the volume V is arbitrary, the only thing that matters is whether it contains the point r' = r, and so the result of the integral is really just the value of the function at the point r' = r? But that seems weird since it looks like that would set the left side of the equation to zero. Am I on the right track at all?
Not really, no. You are assuming that the volume integrand is regular, but you know you are asked to show that it is proportional to a delta function.
 

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