Muscle groups to improve posture

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The discussion centers on the relationship between muscle strength and posture improvement. Participants explore which muscle groups are important for maintaining good posture and share various exercises and approaches to address posture issues. The conversation includes personal experiences and differing opinions on the effectiveness of strength training for posture correction.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that strengthening the entire back, including upper and lower back muscles, as well as the abdominal muscles, is crucial for improving posture.
  • Others argue that posture is not solely dependent on muscle strength, stating that any posture is acceptable unless it causes pain.
  • There is a mention of the importance of stretching tight anterior muscle groups, such as the pectoralis and scalenes, to improve posture.
  • Several participants emphasize the role of core strength as a significant factor in maintaining good posture.
  • Some express skepticism about the effectiveness of strength training alone in changing posture, suggesting that balance and muscle feedback are also critical components.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential dangers of certain exercise programs, such as CrossFit, in relation to posture improvement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the relationship between muscle strength and posture. While some advocate for strength training as beneficial, others contest its significance, leading to an unresolved discussion on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about posture, including the complexity of its relationship with muscle strength, balance, and pain. There are also references to personal experiences that may not generalize across different individuals.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in improving their posture, fitness enthusiasts, and those seeking to understand the interplay between muscle strength and posture may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello,

I want to improve my posture. I tend to slouch and walk with my head jutted forward. I hear that muscle strength affects posture. Is this true? If so, which group of muscles should I strengthen to improve my posture? If possible, can you also supply some reliable links for correct exercises? I also have access to a public gym, so equipment should not be a problem.

Thanks!
 
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your whole back is part of your posture, as well as your abs. Your upper back muscles pull back your shoulders. your lower back and abs will stabilize and keep your posture straight.

I have the same problem as you and I've made a concerted effort to try keep good posture all the time.

Looking for ways to improve your posture other than actually just sitting up straight are probably less effective methods. After a couple weeks of mentally slapping yourself on the wrists for not sitting up straight, it should start to come more and more naturally.

as far as exercises go, youtube P90x ab ripper x for abs, you can do deadlifts for lower back, and rowing, shrugs and pullups for upper back.
 
everything on the rear chain. the aforementioned deadlifts hit the lower back pretty hard, but also will be working the upper back as well, including upper trapezius, levator scapulae, rhomboids, even latissimus dorsi and posterior deltoids will get in on the action. all manner of rows, high and low, will exercise the upper back muscles.

a bigger issue you may find is that anterior muscle groups may be tight and shortened, and need to be stretched, such as pectoralis, scalenes, and sternocleidomastoids.

stay away from crossfit, it's dangerous.
 
You should exercise ALL muscle groups as part a complete training regimen.

However, the main determinant of good or bad posture is "core" strength, which is basically your abdominal muscles.
 
zeion said:
I hear that muscle strength affects posture. Is this true?
Strength has nothing to do with posture.
Any posture is good unless it hurts.
Posture is not related to pain.
 
Proton Soup said:
everything on the rear chain. the aforementioned deadlifts hit the lower back pretty hard, but also will be working the upper back as well, including upper trapezius, levator scapulae, rhomboids, even latissimus dorsi and posterior deltoids will get in on the action. all manner of rows, high and low, will exercise the upper back muscles.

a bigger issue you may find is that anterior muscle groups may be tight and shortened, and need to be stretched, such as pectoralis, scalenes, and sternocleidomastoids.
stay away from crossfit, it's dangerous.

re bolding mine: You really know your stuff. People always have a "sore back" and forget that they've lengthened their rhomboids, and the pecs contract. I'd just add the teres minor and major to the mix, because the shoulders out of whack can really create problems with the musculature and nerves.

Somasimple: Well... if you have a degenerative muscle disorder it might, and if your posture is terrible then you it may cause pain. When you throw a punch, or take one, or a kick etc... the whole body works and posture is important.

That said, I take your point, and the old "if it hurts, stop" really is a very good idea.
 
nismaratwork said:
Somasimple: Well... if you have a degenerative muscle disorder it might, and if your posture is terrible then you it may cause pain. When you throw a punch, or take one, or a kick etc... the whole body works and posture is important.

That is not really a common case.
I see everyday in practice strong and straight people who are suffering. The contrary is not evident.
The posture is a matter of balance. It is not a simple affair to change balance with strength.
 
somasimple said:
That is not really a common case.
I see everyday in practice strong and straight people who are suffering. The contrary is not evident.
The posture is a matter of balance. It is not a simple affair to change balance with strength.

Of course it's not just strength, but are you saying that strengthening supporting musculature isn't an aid to posture? Lengthened Rhomboids and contracted Pectorals are not uncommon at all, and in fact I'd say they're more common than not in this age of typing and computers.

AFAIK, posture is a feedback between muscles, the structural support of the skeleton, connective tissue... and that's it. How could anyone part of that NOT be crucial to the rest, given that it's been made clear that getting ripped isn't a cure for bad posture.
 

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