Nano Fusion? Micro Fusion? Fusion Learning Source?

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the challenges and considerations in fusion reactor design, particularly the contrast between large, expensive reactors like ITER and the potential for smaller, more experimental setups. Participants highlight that while smaller reactors may allow for more experiments, the physics of plasma confinement and energy requirements necessitate larger devices for efficiency. Key parameters such as plasma pressure, collision frequency, and magnetic field strength dictate the limitations of size reduction in fusion reactors. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of ongoing research in both small and large-scale fusion experiments to advance understanding and efficiency in fusion technology.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of plasma physics and confinement methods
  • Familiarity with fusion reactor components, including electromagnets and fuel injectors
  • Knowledge of scaling laws in plasma reactors
  • Awareness of current fusion projects, such as ITER and Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the physics of plasma confinement in fusion reactors
  • Explore the design and operation of small-scale fusion devices
  • Investigate the role of materials science in fusion reactor development
  • Learn about the latest advancements in fusion technology from ongoing projects worldwide
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Researchers, engineers, and students in the fields of plasma physics, fusion technology, and materials science who are interested in the current challenges and innovations in fusion reactor design.

  • #31
Bengey said:
we don't have the tech to squeeze nuclei. Thanks.
No mechanical technology because the physics of solids does not it allow it. The technology for fusion does exist via inertial, electrostatic, and magnetic confinement of nuclei, or "squeezing" them if you like, and has for some time. Unfortunately so far nobody has proven how to do so without using more energy in the process than is produced (outside of fusion enhanced nuclear explosions).
 
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  • #32
SupaVillain said:
When experimenting with fusion, why do we always go so big and make extremely expensive reactors that take years to create and even construct facilities for? I've seen some failed attempts at making fusion happen in carbon nanotubes, failing in the sense that the carbon nanotubes are just completely demolished. It makes more sense to me (I'm new to this stuff) to make small reactors that could fit in your hand or smaller to have far many more experiments conducted,had the same amount of money that's put into these massive reactors been put into a large quantity of smaller projects.

Agreed, the big guns are pulling the majority of funding while ignoring gaps in our knowledge that could be filled with simpler, less expensive fusion experiments. Engineers require data if they are to eventually design a feasible commercial reactor for power generation.

I am not saying we aren't collecting good information with these 'big' experiments, just that we should grab more of the low hanging fruit at the same time as you suggest.
 
  • #33
Some effects appear in larger reactors only, or appear in smaller reactors but don't appear in larger reactors. Building 1000 desk-sized reactors gives a good statistics, but it cannot address several things ITER is built for.
 
  • #34
mfb said:
Some effects appear in larger reactors only, or appear in smaller reactors but don't appear in larger reactors. Building 1000 desk-sized reactors gives a good statistics, but it cannot address several things ITER is built for.

Absolutely, both are required equally.
 
  • #35
mesa said:
Agreed, the big guns are pulling the majority of funding while ignoring gaps in our knowledge that could be filled with simpler, less expensive fusion experiments. Engineers require data if they are to eventually design a feasible commercial reactor for power generation.

I am not saying we aren't collecting good information with these 'big' experiments, just that we should grab more of the low hanging fruit at the same time as you suggest.

Err, what? We've had small-scale fusion experiments running for over 50 years. It's only been recently that we've started to scale up into really big designs.
 
  • #36
Drakkith said:
Err, what? We've had small-scale fusion experiments running for over 50 years. It's only been recently that we've started to scale up into really big designs.
Hey Drakkith!

If you think the bulk of funding is going to small scale fusion experiments then I have a reactor I would like to sell you ;)
 
  • #37
I believe the intent was small *relevant* to ISIS or NIF. Everything prior, tokamaks, magnetic mirrors, etc, fell much further away from the Lawson criterion.
 

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