How Do You Calculate the Natural Angular Frequency of a Dual-Spring System?

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To calculate the natural angular frequency of a dual-spring system, the equation ω = √(k/m) is used, where k is the effective stiffness of the springs combined. In this case, k is the sum of k1 and k2, leading to a total stiffness of 200 N/m for the given values. The mass m is provided as 8 kg, allowing for the calculation of the natural angular frequency. It's important to clarify whether the problem requires the damped or undamped frequency, as this affects the final result. The final answer should be presented to two decimal places, even if it results in an integer value.
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Homework Statement


The suspension of a modified baby bouncer is modeled by a model spring AP with stiffness k1 and a model damper BP with damping coefficient r. The seat is tethered to the ground, and this tether is modeled by a second model spring PC with stiffness k2.

The bouncer is suspended from a fixed support at a height h above the floor.

Determine the natural angular frequency of the system to two decimal places.

Values of k1, k2 and m are given.

Homework Equations


  1. I know natural angular frequency ω = √(k/m)

The Attempt at a Solution


With one fixed spring, I can find ω, but not sure what happens with two fixed springs. I tried adding k1 and k2 together, but got an integer answer that requires no rounding.
 
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umzung said:
to two decimal places.
Can't be done with the given information. You sure this is the actual, complete problem statement ?
 
The full problem statement is as follows:

The suspension of a modified baby bouncer is modeled by a model spring AP with stiffness k1 and a model damper BP with damping coefficient r. The seat is tethered to the ground, and this tether is modeled by a second model spring PC with stiffness k2. Model the combination of baby and seat as a particle of mass m at a point P that is a distance x above floor level.

The bouncer is suspended from a fixed support at a height h above the floor. The suspending spring has natural length l1, while the tethering spring has natural length l2. Take the origin at floor level, with the unit vector i pointing upwards.

  1. the equation of motion of the mass is
    mx ̈+rx ̇ +(k1 +k2)x=k1(h−l1)+k2l2 −mg.
  2. In SI units,suppose that m=8, k1 =130, k2 =70, r=40, h=2,
    l1 = 0.75 and l2 = 0.75. Determine the natural angular frequency of the system to two decimal places.
 
Much better. Even better if you also learn a little ##\TeX## to typeset the equations:$$m\dot x + r\dot x + (k_1+k_2)x = k_1(h-l_1)+k_2l_2 - mg$$ (using the subscript buttons is intermediate :smile:).

Your relevant equation applied to the undamped sytem. You want to decide if the exercise asks for the damped natural frequencey or the undamped one.

umzung said:
got an integer answer that requires no rounding.
In itself, that's not a problem: just quote the result as e.g. 4.00 radians/s :rolleyes:
 
I have a similar question how did you find the natural angular frequency?
 
H07715 said:
I have a similar question how did you find the natural angular frequency?
:welcome:

It's probably best to open your own homework thread.
 
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