Nearsightedness: How Glasses Work to Fix It

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of nearsightedness and how corrective lenses, particularly concave lenses, function to address this vision issue. Participants explore the implications of using glasses for both distant and near objects, as well as the challenges associated with different types of lenses, including bifocals and varifocals.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that nearsighted individuals form images of distant objects in front of the retina and that concave lenses are used to correct this by moving the image onto the retina.
  • Others note that while glasses correct for distance vision, they may require the eye to adjust more for close objects, potentially leading to difficulties in focusing on very near items.
  • A participant shares personal experiences with bifocals, indicating that while they help with distance vision, they can be inadequate for very close tasks.
  • One participant describes the need to "focus harder" on nearby objects when wearing glasses, suggesting that strong prescriptions can hinder the ability to see very close objects.
  • Another participant recounts their own focusing range with and without glasses, illustrating the varying effects of corrective lenses on vision at different distances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views regarding the effectiveness of corrective lenses for different distances, with some agreeing on the challenges posed by nearsightedness and others providing differing personal experiences. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the optimal solutions for all scenarios.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various personal experiences and observations regarding the effectiveness of different types of lenses, but no formal definitions or scientific principles are established. The discussion reflects individual variations in vision correction and the subjective nature of lens effectiveness.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals experiencing nearsightedness, those considering corrective lenses, or anyone curious about the mechanics of vision correction and the implications of different lens types.

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Let's talk about Nearsighted people.
Nearsighted people creates the image of far objects in front of the retina,not on it.
But produces images of closer objects on the retina
So we use a concave lens to make the images of the far objects on the retina.Then what will happen to images of near objects?Won't it form behind the retina now because the concave lens increased the focal length of the Eye lens?
 
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Nearsighted corretion places virtual images of far objects on the retina. The lens of the eye will need to compensate for closer objects. For glasses that correct for near sighted people, this also means a reduction in size of the image on the retina. For contacts, which are much closer to the lens, the size distortion is much less.
 
Im not talking about the image height.
 
Isn't this why they make bifocals? If the prescription works well for distance it is "too strong" for reading. I'm very nearsighted and if I want to see something up close (very close, like 2 or 3 inches) I have to take my glasses off.
 
There are two problems. Young eyes may just have the wrong shape, that will not allow a distant object to focus at all on the retina. They can, however, 'accommodate' for close objects, by muscular action and, once a correcting lens has been placed there, they can see the whole range from infinity to some 'near point'. (The same applies to many young people with 'long sight' - once corrected, they can focus over a range.)
When you get old, however, the focussing muscles around the lens get stiff and cannot provide such a big range of accommodation. So the bifocals come into play, to cope with a range of object distances. Varifocals are even better, of course, as I found, some time ago, whilst teaching. When I tried bifocals I was either too far away to see students' work, over their shoulders, or so near that I became that pervy teacher leaning too close and breathing down their necks. Varifocals were just the job and I could position myself at a mutually satisfactory distance. Still not a perfect solution when you are trying to work in confined spaces because you have to bend your neck in order to bring close up objects into the lower bit of your vision. Some varifocal prescriptions are really rubbish as they have only a narrow horizontal range. It offends me that I have to pay for the 'best' ones, when they are all made in the same way. Rippoff as usual.
 
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adjacent said:
Let's talk about Nearsighted people.
Nearsighted people creates the image of far objects in front of the retina,not on it.
But produces images of closer objects on the retina
So we use a concave lens to make the images of the far objects on the retina.Then what will happen to images of near objects?Won't it form behind the retina now because the concave lens increased the focal length of the Eye lens?

Remember that the lens in your eye changes shape to alter the focus. When you wear eyeglasses for nearsightedness like I do, you have to "focus harder" to see nearby objects with your glasses on than you do with them off because of the divergence introduced by the glasses. If your prescription is strong enough, I'm sure it would make you unable to see very close objects because the increased divergence of the light rays would be more than your eye could compensate for.

In fact, I just did an experiment. With my glasses on I have to be about 1-2 inches further away from very close objects than I do with my glasses off in order to bring them into focus. By "very close objects" I mean objects about 2-4 inches from my eye.
 
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Oh.So that's the reason.Thanks for all the posts

PS Title should be "How do glasses work?"
I'm not good at Do does kind of things in all languages
 
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I'm very nearsighted. When I was younger, without my glasses I could focus from maybe 4cm to 30cm. With my glasses I could focus from maybe about 20cm to infinity. (This is from ancient memory, from when I used to do this exercise with students in physics classes.)

Now, without my glasses, I can focus from about 10cm to 13cm. With the lower part of my bifocal glasses, I can focus from about 30cm to 40cm. With the upper part, I can focus from maybe 100cm to infinity. (I'd have to check my eyeglass prescription and do some calculations to make sure these are consistent.)
 

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