Need a device or method to generate cool air outside

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods to generate cool air outdoors in high temperatures, specifically when temperatures reach the 90s and above. Participants explore various devices and techniques that could achieve localized cooling while maintaining low humidity levels.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using an electrically powered cooling device alongside a fan to reduce air temperature by 5° to 10° in the immediate area.
  • Another participant questions whether evaporative coolers would be suitable, expressing concern that they would increase humidity rather than keep it low.
  • Some participants propose that running an air conditioner outside could be a straightforward solution, with suggestions to improve efficiency by shielding it from wind.
  • It is noted that cooling devices must move energy away from the area to create cold air, as is done in air conditioners and refrigerators.
  • A vortex cooler is recommended for moving air without mechanical parts, which could be useful in specific applications.
  • A Peltier cooler combined with a muffin fan is suggested as a compact solution for small areas.
  • Using a bottle of compressed air is proposed as a non-electric alternative for localized cooling.
  • One participant inquires about the budget and running costs for the cooling setup, highlighting the economic challenges of reducing humidity on humid days.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of ideas and suggestions, with no consensus on a single effective method for generating cool air outdoors. Multiple competing views remain regarding the feasibility and practicality of different cooling solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the limitations of each proposed method, including assumptions about energy efficiency, cost, and the specific environmental conditions that may affect performance.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in outdoor cooling solutions, particularly in high-temperature environments, as well as those exploring alternative cooling technologies.

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I need a way to generate cool air outside when temperatures are 90s and above. Basically what I am thinking of doing is essentially like positioning a fan right beside a bowl of ice cubes. Only in my case, instead of using ice cubes, an electrically powered cooling device that can slightly reduce the temperature in the area immediately around it, and a fan would blow that cooler air at a person or object I need to keep cool. And, I would like to keep the air relatively dry (50% or less humidity). I don't know a lot about what's out there, but I did read on another forum about using a heat exchanger to generate cool air. I only need to reduce the temperature by 5° to 10° a foot or less away from the cooler.
 
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That link is for evaporative coolers; is that the kind of device I was describing? I don't think that will work in my case because I need the air to be relatively dry, rather than increase humidity. Are there no other options for outdoor cooling?
 
You're basically just talking about running an air conditioner outside.
 
dmehling said:
Are there no other options for outdoor cooling?
Running an air conditioner outside is clearly the easy way to go.
You could improve on that by placing the air conditioner in an area which is well covered by tarps or other materials,
so that the machine isn't having to deal with winds and stuff like that.
 
You cannot just make something cold without moving that energy somewhere else. That's essentially what any air conditioner, refrigerator or heat pump does.
 
dmehling said:
I need a way to generate cool air outside when temperatures are 90s and above. Basically what I am thinking of doing is essentially like positioning a fan right beside a bowl of ice cubes. Only in my case, instead of using ice cubes, an electrically powered cooling device that can slightly reduce the temperature in the area immediately around it, and a fan would blow that cooler air at a person or object I need to keep cool. And, I would like to keep the air relatively dry (50% or less humidity). I don't know a lot about what's out there, but I did read on another forum about using a heat exchanger to generate cool air. I only need to reduce the temperature by 5° to 10° a foot or less away from the cooler.
How much money are you willing to pay to set this up? What running cost/hour would you be prepared for?

Reducing the humidity by so much on a very humid day is going to be an economical challenge.
 
If you are moving air try a vortex cooler. We use them to supply cool air inside of anti-contamination suits. No moving parts except the air.
 
If it's a small spot, you might try a Peltier cooler and a muffin fan.

A Peltier cooler is basically a thermocouple run backwards.
 
You might also consider a bottle of compressed air. Fan and ice in one package with no need for electricity.

You could recharge it at the local scuba shop.
 
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The OP hasn't returned to answer questions or provide additional helpful information, so it's time to close this thread. Thanks to all contributors.
 

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