Need a GREAT introduction book to calculus based physics

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for introductory textbooks on calculus-based physics, particularly for undergraduate students. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding various texts that cover fundamental concepts in mechanics, fluid mechanics, thermal physics, wave motion, and sound.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a need for a clear and organized textbook that covers both basic and advanced concepts, given their concerns about the teaching quality in their upcoming course.
  • Another participant recommends Serway's textbook, noting its effectiveness based on personal experience, while also mentioning Knight's book as a strong alternative.
  • A different viewpoint suggests Paul Tipler's "Physics for Scientists and Engineers" for its clarity and helpful illustrations, though there is some hesitation about its overall reception among students.
  • One participant questions the general opinion on Tipler's book, indicating a lack of consensus on its usefulness for beginners.
  • Halliday, Resnick, and Krane are mentioned as a preferred choice by one participant, while another suggests "University Physics" as a viable option.
  • Alonso and Finn's textbook is praised by a participant as an excellent resource.
  • Several newer textbooks are proposed, such as "Six Ideas That Shaped Physics" and "Matter & Interactions," which aim to incorporate active learning and are seen as different from traditional texts.
  • One participant recommends starting with a free online resource, "Motion Mountain," before investing in a textbook.
  • The Feynman Lectures are suggested as a supplementary resource that explains concepts well, although they are not a replacement for a textbook.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of preferences for different textbooks, indicating that there is no clear consensus on a single best option. Multiple competing views remain regarding which texts are most effective for learning calculus-based physics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the effectiveness of a textbook may depend on the reader's mathematical background and the specific needs of life-science students, suggesting that not all recommendations may suit every individual's situation.

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I am currently an undergrad about to embark on Physics I (Calculus Based). I took AP Physics in High School, but the teacher was awful and I never felt like I actually understood anything that I was "learning".

The professor that I will have this upcoming fall is undoubtedly intelligent, however, it is commonly known to the students that she is completely unable to convey basic concepts, thus making the class difficult to understand.

Thus, I wanted some opinions on what the BEST Physics Textbook/Help book is. I'm looking for something that explains the basic concepts clearly and in an organized fashion, yet still goes to a higher level of complexity (so that I can actually pass my exams).

Here is the only description of the course and the topics to be covered that I could find:

The basic principles of mechanics, fluid mechanics, thermal physics, wave motion, and sound. Primarily for students in the life sciences.
Thanks for all the help!
 
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Personally I never went to class in first year (or second... or most of third for that matter) and I just learned it all from the textbook and I did fine. I'm a fan of Serway's book but I've recently been TAing a course that uses Knight's and that's kinda grown on me as well. The reality of the matter is that so many people take first year physics that all of the main boks (Giancolli, Serway, Halliday and Resnick, Knight, etc) are going to be of a really high quality so you can really pick any of them and be fine.
 
Someone might hurt me for saying this, but I think that Paul Tipler's book "Physics for Scientists and Engineers" is pretty good. The explanations and notation make sense, and there are a lot of good pictures (seriously, when you're seeing this stuff for the first time illustrations really help). I wouldn't recommend blindly throwing away $100+ for it, but you might try looking for it at the library.
 
Do people generally hate Tipler? I don't know I think I flipped through it once and didn't see anything wrong/different about it (of course looking through those kind of books when you're in grad school it's kinda hard to determine how helpful it will be to someone new to the field)
 
How much math do you know?

Halliday Resnick Krane is the best I have encountered.
University Physics isn't bad too.
 
Alonso and Finn Enough said! Seriously this book is great.
 
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I've taught from various textbooks (Halliday+Resnick, Serway, Cutnell, Wilson+Buffa)...
and I've gotten a little bored of them.

However, here are some "new" textbooks that are worth looking into.
They have tried to incorporate aspects of Physics Education Research.

http://www.physics.pomona.edu/sixideas/ Six Ideas That Shaped Physics (Moore)
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~rwchabay/mi/ Matter & Interactions (Chabay & Sherwood)
http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0471370991.html Understanding Physics (Cummings, Laws, Redish, Cooney)

The first two are different from your standard textbooks...
The last is a variation on Halliday and Resnick.

These approaches rely on more than just the textbook.
They each encourage active-participation (i.e. not merely solving typical "textbook problems") with the various concepts presented.

(Alonso and Finn is nice... but maybe a little advanced.)
("Integrated Physics and Calculus" is interesting... but probably too mathematical for the typical life-science student in a physics course.)

Another interesting book that might appeal to a life-science student is
http://www.mhhe.com/grr/ (Giambattista, Richardson, & Richardson).
If I had the opportunity to pick a text for a physics course for life-science students, I would pick this one to try out.
 
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how about the feynman lectures? It doesn't replace a textbook but explains the concepts well.
 

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