Need explanation about magnetic forces

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The discussion clarifies the mechanics behind the propulsion of a magnet within a coil, emphasizing the role of conductive coatings on magnets that enable electrical current flow. This current generates a magnetic field that interacts with permanent magnets, resulting in significant propulsion. The conversation also highlights the efficiency of the solenoid compared to a motor, noting that the absence of gears or transmission systems enhances direct force application. Additionally, it is pointed out that the example car operates on a wind-up mechanism rather than magnetic forces. Overall, the interaction between the induced magnetic field and the permanent magnets is key to understanding the propulsion observed.
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Hi,

I saw this video and I can't explain why the magnet is propelled to the end of the coil with such a huge force. Can someone explain it in clear terms. I also tried to use Flemings left hand (or right hand) rule but it did not give me a satisfactory answer.



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SM
 
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Magnets are typically coated in conductive metal, like nickel, for extended durability. Even if themselves not conductive, their metallic coating will conduct electricity from the battery to the copper coil. The current will flow between + and - through the coil, creating a magnetic field in the process:
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The induced magnetic field will interact with the permanent magnets, propelling the battery assembly forward.
 
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unplebeian said:
with such a huge force.
Well, the car has the whole of its motor on board and needs to get power via the braid 'brushes' (contacts). That limits the current available to the motor. The magnet (solenoid) is much less subtle; it can have very fat wire for its coils and be supplied with a lot of current without the problem of brushes. Also the force is applied direct to the magnet and no gears / transmission system is there to affect the efficiency. It is, perhaps, not a fair fight. :smile:
 
Some batteries can deliver quite a lot of power into a low resistance load.
 
I think the car is wind-up (aka clockwork)?
 
CWatters said:
I think the car is wind-up (aka clockwork)?

yes ... there is no magnetic field or batteries involved in the car ... you can see him winding up the spring
at around 2 min20sec

just the battery and magnets in the copper tube example
and @Bandersnatch has explained how that works
 
Bandersnatch said:
Magnets are typically coated in conductive metal, like nickel, for extended durability. Even if themselves not conductive, their metallic coating will conduct electricity from the battery to the copper coil. The current will flow between + and - through the coil, creating a magnetic field in the process:
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The induced magnetic field will interact with the permanent magnets, propelling the battery assembly forward.
Thanks. That makes a lot of sense and also explains why an initial nudge is required to start the mechanism that propels the magnet all the way to the other end.
 
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