Need formula to relate distance to arcsec in the sky

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The discussion focuses on calculating the time it takes for a supernova explosion to appear as one arcsecond from Earth, specifically at a distance of 50 kiloparsecs. Participants suggest using the formula D=H/2tan(a) to relate the diameter of the explosion to the observed angle, while also emphasizing the importance of understanding small angle approximations where θ ≈ sin(θ) ≈ tan(θ). The shockwave from the supernova is noted to propagate at approximately the speed of light, which is crucial for determining visibility and expansion rates.

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Homework Statement


I need to find how long it will take a supernova explosion to be a size of one arc sec here on earth, the distance to this explosion is 50 kilparsec


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Any clue on what the formula is?
thanks
 
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leonne said:

Homework Statement


I need to find how long it will take a supernova explosion to be a size of one arc sec here on earth, the distance to this explosion is 50 kilparsec

Wiki defines the kiloparsec at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsec so you can get the circumference at 50 kpc using Pi*d. Then divide by 360 to get degrees, 60 to get minutes, and 60 again to get seconds.
 
hmm, don't think that will help me I need to find how big the explosion needs to be to see 1 arc sec. With the radius, than i can calculate the time. I found this formula D=H/2tan(a) , but don't think it will work. either hmm. Well if I solve for H would that be the true diameter of the explosion?
Well thanks for the help
 
Have you tried drawing a diagram to see what the geometry of the situation is?

Things to keep in mind for very small angles: θ ≈ sin(θ) ≈ tan(θ).

You're looking for the time it takes "a supernova explosion to be a size of one arc sec [as seen] here on earth". What were you planning on using for the expansion rate of the supernova debris?
 
hey,
well i remembered using a formula last semester to find something similar, but forgot what the formula was. I found what the velocity was in part 1.
 
leonne said:
hey,
well i remembered using a formula last semester to find something similar, but forgot what the formula was. I found what the velocity was in part 1.

The shockwave of a supernova propagates at approximately the speed of light. I would suspect that's visible.
 
well we where told that ...ejected mass of 20 solar mass.
 

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