Need help finding flux across a surface

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The problem involves finding the upward flux across the surface defined by z = x for the vector field F = (y, -x, 0). The discussion centers around the parametrization of the surface and the calculation of the normal vector.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the parametrization of the surface z = x, with attempts to define the parameterization in terms of x and y. Questions arise regarding the correct form of the parametrization and the calculation of the normal vector.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the surface bounds and the correct approach to parametrization. Some participants have provided insights into the calculation of the normal vector and the use of the cross product, while others are clarifying the notation and concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of establishing bounds for the surface to avoid integrating over an infinite plane. There is also mention of potential typos in the parametrization attempts.

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Homework Statement



Find the upward flux across the surface z = x of the vector field F=(y,-x,0).

Homework Equations



∫∫(F[itex]\bullet[/itex]n)ds

The Attempt at a Solution



I know what to do once I parametrize z = x but I am stuck on the parametrization. Would it just be: r(x,y) = (zi + j + xk) ?
 
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or could I say f(x,y,z) = z - x

so the normal vector would be : [itex]\nabla[/itex]f / ||[itex]\nabla[/itex]f||

= -i + k / [itex]\sqrt{}[/itex]-12+12
 
The first thing you are going to have to do is put bounds on your surface. You don't want to integrate across the entire infinite plane, do you?

As far as the parameterization of the surface is concerned, it is r(x, y)= xi+ yj+ xk. You are missing the "y" but I suspect that was a typo.

The best way to find n, or better, [itex]\vec{n} dS= d\vec{S}[/itex], is to find the "fundamental vector product" of the surface. That is the cross product [itex]\vec{r}_x\times\vec{r}_y[/itex].

[tex]d\vec{S}= (\vec{r}_x\times\vec{r}_y)dxdy[/tex]

I personally don't like the notation [itex]\vec{n}dS[/itex] because if you take that literally, as you have here, you have to divide by the length of the normal vector to find [itex]\vec{n}[/itex] and then multiply by it to find dS- and, of course, those will cancel!
 
So then it's just the double integral of the vector field dot that cross product and I just need to find the limits of integration. Thanks!
 

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