Need help How to make Hydrogen peroxide ''H2O2'' ?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and methods of producing hydrogen peroxide (H2O2), particularly for use in a neon light and as a fuel. Participants express concerns about the complexity and dangers associated with making concentrated H2O2, as well as the regulatory implications of its production.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a step-by-step method to create hydrogen peroxide for a neon light and other applications.
  • Another participant asserts that producing hydrogen peroxide from water and oxygen is difficult for someone with the original poster's skill level, questioning the practicality of the request.
  • A participant suggests that while distillation from a dilute solution is theoretically possible, it poses significant risks due to the instability of concentrated H2O2.
  • Concerns are raised about the legality and safety of producing concentrated hydrogen peroxide, with one participant emphasizing the regulatory challenges and dangers involved.
  • One participant shares their expertise in handling hazardous materials, warning against the risks of attempting to distill or create fuel-grade hydrogen peroxide.
  • Alternative suggestions for propellants are mentioned, directing the original poster to explore solid-phase options instead of liquid-phase propellants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the feasibility of producing hydrogen peroxide at home, with some emphasizing the dangers and regulatory issues, while others maintain a desire to pursue the idea. No consensus is reached regarding the methods or safety of production.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexities and dangers associated with producing concentrated hydrogen peroxide, including the need for specialized knowledge and equipment, as well as the legal implications of its production.

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Need help! How to make Hydrogen peroxide ''H2O2'' ?

i want to make a neon light with H2O2 but the problem is i can't find it anywhere even in my school and i was thinking how its H2O2 < ---- > H2O + O2 and that mean i can mix it but i don't know how.
can anybody show me how to do it step by step.
and if you have an other idea, you can just say it
thanks advance :)
 
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Hydrogen peroxide is difficult to make from water and oxygen by someone of your skill level.
Neon light won't work with H2O2 so you are probably wasting your time anyway. Is someone playing a prank on you?
 


you said "Hydrogen peroxide is difficult to make from water and oxygen by someone of your skill level"
so i believe you know how, i can take that to a friend and I'm sure he knows about it

and it's not just for the neon light
i want it to make H2O2 as fuel and some stuff
and thanks for ur replay
 


aiisshsaak said:
you said "Hydrogen peroxide is difficult to make from water and oxygen by someone of your skill level"
so i believe you know how, i can take that to a friend and I'm sure he knows about it

and it's not just for the neon light
i want it to make H2O2 as fuel and some stuff
and thanks for ur replay
As a propellant, there won't really be a safe way to get high enough concentrations. It would be possible to distill it from a dilute solution, but due to it's instability, you would need to do so at high pressure. I would rather doubt you would have the resources to carry out such a distillation and attempting it at normal pressures runs a rather large risk of it exploding on you.
 


Short answer: neither you, nor your friend, can make Hydrogen Peroxide.

More complete explanation: Look - you can buy 3%, cheap (I bought a liter yesterday at Safeway for $1.79, to oxidize some copper). And you mentioned "fuel and some stuff". So I assume you mean you want concentrated H2O2, and probably a decent amount.

1) It's HIGHLY regulated, certainly in the US and the EU, and probably most other non-3rd-world countries. I'm guessing that making, or possessing, 70% H2O2 and above, is almost certainly a serious felony in the US.

2) Making concentrated H2O2 is INSANELY difficult, requiring SERIOUS chemical knowledge and sophisticated equipment. No - you're NOT "just mixing together" water and oxygen - it *should* be that simple, but it ain't.

3) The stuff itself is WACKY dangerous. Trust me - I own an energy company. I make synthetic gasoline in a steel-box lab filled with explosive gases and liquids at high pressure and temperature, in steel tubes rated for nuclear plants. And I work IN THAT BOX, 3 feet from those tubes.

And I wouldn't even TRY to distill, or make, fuel-grade H2O2. Why not? Because it would explode and kill me. Not 'might' - would.

If you want propellants, like for rockets -- Google for "Tripoli Rocketry", look at some of the options for solid-phase propellants. Liquid phase scares hell out of even the pros. And - dude - learn before you burn. ;-)
 
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