Need help understanding Euler's formula (complex numbers)

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The discussion revolves around understanding Euler's formula, particularly the notation and implications of the expression \( e^{i\vartheta} = \cos\vartheta + i\sin\vartheta \). Participants explore the mathematical notation, the nature of complex exponentiation, and the derivation of the formula through Taylor series.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the notation \( e^{i\vartheta} \) and questions whether it represents an exponential expression.
  • Another participant clarifies that \( e^{ix} = \cos x + i\sin x \) is a relationship where \( x \) is a dummy variable, and emphasizes that the same symbol must be used consistently.
  • A participant acknowledges the use of variables to represent angles but seeks further clarification on the nature of the exponential expression.
  • One participant argues that the exponent of a complex number cannot be rigorously defined and suggests that Euler's formula is more of a definition than a theorem.
  • In contrast, another participant asserts that everything in mathematics is rigorous and explains that exponentials can be defined for complex numbers using Taylor series, providing a detailed derivation of \( e^{ix} \) through power series.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of defining the exponent of a complex number. There are competing views regarding the rigor of the definition of Euler's formula and the validity of using Taylor series for complex exponentiation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the rigorous treatment of complex exponentiation and the implications of using different variables in the context of trigonometric functions.

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I have a couple questions regarding Euler's formula. First I'm confused about the notation ei\vartheta. To me the notation implies that we are raising e to the exponent i multiplied by \vartheta. Is this correct? If so, how would you do that? Also, my second question regards the second part of that equation: cos\vartheta + isin\vartheta. That makes sense to me, but sometimes I see it written as cosx + isinx. I don't understand what that means. What would be the cosine or sine of x?
 
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You seemed to be confused about mathematical notation. eix= cosx+isinx is a relationship where x is a dummy symbol. You can plug in any value (make sure you understand the trig function arguments are radians, not degrees) on both sides and the relationship holds. It doesn't matter what symbol you use as long as it is the same for all three functions.
 
Thanks for answering my second question. I didn't realize that variables could be used to stand in for something like an angle. I figured that simply using theta would suffice as a variable of sorts.

What about my first question? Is the first part of the formula an exponential expression or not, or is this an expression that cannot be evaluated?
 
You can't really define the exponent of a complex number.
This formula can be derived by several tools, but the use of these tool in the field of complex number is not rigorous: you can't really prove that they behave the same in the complex field as they in the real field (just like the exponent itself), so this formula remains more like a definition rather than a theorem.
 
elibj123, everything in mathematics is "rigorous". We can and do "really define the exponent of a complex number".

You can define exponentials or things other than regular real numbers, not just imaginary numbers and complex numbers, but matrices, etc. by using the Taylor's series.

It is shown in calculus that the power series
\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{x^n}{n!}= 1+ x+ \frac{1}{2}x^2+ \frac{1}{3!}x^3+ \cdot\cdot\cdot[/itex] <br /> converges to e<sup>x</sup> for all x.<br /> <br /> Since that involves only products and sums, we can use that to define e<sup>A</sup> for anything we can define products and sums for (including complex numbers and matrices, etc.).<br /> <br /> In particular, we know that (ix)^2= i^2x^2= -x, (ix)^3= (ix)^2(ix)= (-x)(ix)= -ix^3, and (ix)^4= (ix)^3(ix)= (-ix^3)(ix)= -(i^2)x^4= x^4. Of course, higher powers just repeat that. In particular:<br /> e^{ix}= 1+ (ix)+ \frac{1}{2}(ix)^2+ \frac{1}{3!}(ix)^3+ \frac{1}{4!}x^4+ \frac{1}{5!}(ix)^5 \cdot\cdot\cdot<br /> = 1+ ix- \frac{1}{2}(-x^2)+ \frac{1}{3!}(-ix^3)+ \frac{1}{4}(x^4}+ \frac{1}{5!}ix^5+ \cdot\cdot\cdot<br /> <br /> We can divide that into &quot;real&quot; and &quot;imaginary&quot; parts:<br /> e^{ix}= (1- \frac{1}{2}x^2+ \frac{1}{4!}x^4-\cdot\cdot\cdot)+ i(x- \frac{1}{3!}x^4+ \frac{1}{5!}x^5+\cdot\cdot\cdot<br /> and recognize those as the Taylor&#039;s series for cosine and sine:<br /> e^{ix}= cos(x)+ i sin(x).
 

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