Need some help with a derivative and the chain rule

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The discussion centers on the application of the chain rule and quotient rule in calculus, specifically for the function f(x) = sin(x^2) / ln(sinx). The user initially misapplies the derivative rules, leading to confusion regarding the correct differentiation of ln(sinx). The correct derivative, as clarified, is f'(x) = [ln(sinx)(cos(x^2) * 2x) - sin(x^2)(1/sinx)cosx] / [ln(sinx)]^2, with the key insight that the derivative of ln(sinx) is (1/sinx)cosx. This highlights the importance of correctly identifying the inner function in chain rule applications.

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Okay so I'm doing chain rule work to go over the stuff from calc 1 before I take a departmental exam and I've run into this problem:

Homework Statement


Take the derivative of:

f(x) = \frac{sin(x^2)}{ln sinx}



Homework Equations


Here's the formula I used (and always do) for the chain rule:

\frac{d}{dx}[f(g(x))] = f'(g(x))*g'(x)



The Attempt at a Solution



f'(x) = \frac{ln sinx(cos(x^2)2x) - sin(x^2)\frac{1}{sinx}sinx cosx}{[ln sinx]^2}


So, I've done this simple derivative problem 3 times and for some reason I keep getting this answer. E-Mailed my Prof and he said that the sinx right after the 1/sinx is not suposed to be there, but I cannot see why...Can anyone verify the correct answer for me just to see what I'm not grasping here. I'm very frustrated.
 
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Why do you have a sinx there? sinx2 comes from the original function, cosx/sinx comes from differentiating ln(sinx).
 
I'm thinking g(x) = sinx so by the chain rule the bottom lnsinx = \frac{1}{sinx}sinxcosx

And you and my prof are saying that lnsinx = \frac{1}{sinx}cosx

But what happens to the g(x)
 
D [ln(sinx)] = (1/sinx)cosx.
(where D is the derivative)

The general formula you are using is D [a(x)/b(x)] = [a'(x)b(x) - b'(x)a(x)] / [b(x)]2
You have most the terms right, it is the b'(x)a(x) term that is incorrect.
 
But why? If the rule is f'(x) = f'(g(x))*g'(x) than what happens to the g(x) which in this case = sinx
 
VeeEight said:
The general formula you are using is D [a(x)/b(x)] = [a'(x)b(x) - b'(x)a(x)] / [b(x)]2
You have most the terms right, it is the b'(x)a(x) term that is incorrect.

That's the quotient rule, but I'm talking about the chain rule that needs to be used to get f'(x)
 
Show step by step where the problem is.
If you are trying to differentiate ln(sinx), take the g(x)=sinx. then D [ln(g(x))] = 1/g(x) * g'(x). What is g'(x) here? It is cosx. Thus D [ln(g(x))] = 1/g(x) * g'(x) = (1/sinx)cosx
 
I see it now! You're right. I can't thank you enough.. This was driving me crazy. Seriously, thank you so much.
 
No problem! :) Peace
 

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