Neon energy levels in He-Ne laser

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The He-Ne laser utilizes Neon as its lasing element, with a primary lasing transition occurring at 632.8 nm from the 3s to the 2p energy level. The discussion highlights a 1.15 μm transition from the 2s to the 2p level, raising questions about the energy hierarchy since the 2s orbital is typically lower in energy than the 2p. The confusion is clarified by explaining that the Paschen notation used in the energy level diagram does not directly correspond to hydrogen-like configurations, and in multi-electron atoms, such as Neon, the 2S state can indeed have higher energy than the 2P state due to electron interactions.

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Neon is the lasing element in He-Ne laser. The lasing transition(632.8nm) is from 3s to 2p. In the energy level diagram there is one 1.15μm transition from 2s to 2p. But we studied that 2s orbital have lower energy than 2p then how it is possible, in the energy diagram, 2s level have higher energy than 2p level and one transition of 2s to 2p?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium–neon_laser#mediaviewer/File:Hene-2.png
 
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Anoop MD said:
Neon is the lasing element in He-Ne laser. The lasing transition(632.8nm) is from 3s to 2p. In the energy level diagram there is one 1.15μm transition from 2s to 2p. But we studied that 2s orbital have lower energy than 2p then how it is possible, in the energy diagram, 2s level have higher energy than 2p level and one transition of 2s to 2p?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium–neon_laser#mediaviewer/File:Hene-2.png

The notation in the diagram you reference is called Paschen notation. The labels are numberings of excited states, by energy. The "2S" does not refer to a "2s" hydrogen-like wave fundtion. Look at the reference given on the wikipage for a discussion of what nominal electron configurations correspond to the different Paschen notation labels.

http://archive.today/pwve

Remember too that in multi-electron atoms, the kind of electron configurations that you learn to write as a beginning student (e.g. 1s^2 for He) are all approximations to the truth.
 
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Quantum Defect said:
The notation in the diagram you reference is called Paschen notation. The labels are numberings of excited states, by energy. The "2S" does not refer to a "2s" hydrogen-like wave fundtion. Look at the reference given on the wikipage for a discussion of what nominal electron configurations correspond to the different Paschen notation labels.

http://archive.today/pwve

Remember too that in multi-electron atoms, the kind of electron configurations that you learn to write as a beginning student (e.g. 1s^2 for He) are all approximations to the truth.
Thank you
 
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Anoop MD said:
how it is possible, in the energy diagram, 2s level have higher energy than 2p level and one transition of 2s to 2p?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium–neon_laser#mediaviewer/File:Hene-2.png

Recall that Neon has more than 1 electron: the notation used in the level diagram is a not literally the same as for hydrogen:

http://archive.today/pwve

As you can see, the 2P level corresponds to the outermost 3p electron, while the 2S state corresponds to the outermost 4s electron, which has a higher energy than the 3p electron.
 
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Thank you, now it is in phase with what I learned!
 

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