Net Force on Center Charge in Y-Direction in Square of Charges

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The discussion revolves around the net force acting on a charge placed at the center of a square formed by four other charges located at the corners. The charges are defined by integer multipliers and a constant charge value, and the problem involves calculating the net y-component of the force on the center charge, as well as evaluating several true/false statements regarding the system's equilibrium conditions.

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the forces acting on the center charge into their components and question the correctness of their calculations. There are attempts to evaluate the true/false statements based on the equilibrium conditions of the charges.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the net force and are comparing their results. There is ongoing debate about the true/false statements, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the definitions of equilibrium in this context. Multiple interpretations of the equilibrium conditions are being explored.

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Participants are working under specific conditions where the integer multipliers for the charges are set to certain values, and there is confusion regarding the signs and contributions of different charges to the net force. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify these points without reaching a final consensus.

  • #31
Winzer said:
but y the q^2, shouldn't it be q_{1}q_{2}?

edit: oh wait i see what you did. shouldn't r=.332?

I'm getting r^2 = (0.235/2)^2 + (0.235/2)^2
 
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  • #32
mmm...so what is wrong with:
F= \frac{qKCos(\theta)}{r^2}[-1.4e^-6-1.75e^-6+7e^-7+2.8e^-6]
i chose the negitives because -x direction.

edit: for the x direction
 
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  • #33
Winzer said:
mmm...so what is wrong with:
F= \frac{qKCos(\theta)}{r^2}[-1.4e^-6-1.75e^-6+7e^-7+2.8e^-6]
i chose the negitives because -x direction.

edit: for the x direction

Can you show how you get your numbers? I'm not getting those numbers...
 
  • #34
well A=2*3.50e-7=7.0e-7
B=4*3.50e-7=1.4e-6...
 
  • #35
Winzer said:
well A=2*3.50e-7=7.0e-7
B=4*3.50e-7=1.4e-6...

Oh, I see now... Ok... but you should be taking the y-components, not the x-components... so the 1.4e-6 and 7e-7 should have the same sign. And the other two should have the same sign.
 
  • #36
ok so for y this should work right?
F= \frac{qKSin(\theta)}{r^2}[-1.4E^-6-1.75E^-6+7E^-7+2.8E^-6]
 
  • #37
Winzer said:
ok so for y this should work right?
F= \frac{qKSin(\theta)}{r^2}[-1.4E^-6-1.75E^-6+7E^-7+2.8E^-6]

No, that won't work.
 
  • #38
but y is what i am wondering, beside the wrong value.
 
  • #39
Winzer said:
but y is what i am wondering, beside the wrong value.

Switching from cos to sin like that will only work if you use a different angle for each charge (measure the angle from the +x - axis)...
 
  • #40
ok,ok. But how do I correct the equation?!
 
  • #41
Winzer said:
ok,ok. But how do I correct the equation?!

The quantity in your square brackets should be:

[-1.4E^-6+1.75E^-6-7E^-7+2.8E^-6]

I just fixed the signs... sin(45) = cos(45) so it doesn't matter if you use sin or cos.
 
  • #42
did u get .197N? i didn't
 
  • #43
The sum of the square brackets is: 2.45E-6

so we want:
kq/r^2* sin(45) (2.45E-6)

r^2 = (0.235/2)^2 + (0.235/2)^2 = 0.0276125

so we get:

[9E9(3.5E-7)/(0.0276125)]*sin(45)*(2.45E-6) = 0.1976N
 
  • #44
lol..ok now i get. I must have misinterperted the diagram to have small box lengths of.235...
 

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