Neutral Meson Oscillations (probabilities)

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The discussion revolves around the probability of neutral meson oscillations, specifically focusing on the transition probability for the process \( \mathcal{P}(B^0 \rightarrow B^0) \). Participants explore the mathematical formulation of the probability, its dependence on various parameters, and the implications of decay types in the context of quantum mechanics.

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  • One participant presents a mathematical derivation of the probability for \( B^0 \rightarrow B^0 \) and questions the origin of the lifetime \( \tau \) in the denominator of the probability expression.
  • Another participant suggests that the probability reflects the likelihood of the particle being a \( B^0 \) at decay time, noting complications in non-semi-leptonic decays.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of the "original type" of the particle, with some participants clarifying that it refers to the state at the time of decay rather than at \( t=0 \).
  • One participant mentions that the mixing of states complicates the identification of the original type at decay, particularly in the presence of interference between mixed and unmixed states.
  • Another participant relates the calculated survival probability to the standard decay law, emphasizing the role of the decay rate and the lifetime in the probability expression.
  • There is a consensus that the mixing depends on \( \Delta m \), with some participants noting that smaller \( \Delta m \) leads to slower mixing, while larger \( \Delta m \) results in faster oscillations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the probability and the implications of decay types, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the origin of the lifetime \( \tau \) or the implications of mixing in non-semi-leptonic decays.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the limitations of the simplified models used in the discussion, particularly regarding the assumptions about decay types and the effects of mixing on the probability calculations.

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I am looking into the probability for : \mathcal{P}(B^0 \rightarrow B^0).
I said that if I start from a state |B^0> = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (|B_L> +|B_H>) with L(ight)/H(heavy) are the mass eigenstates, then after some time t the state will evolve:
|B^0(t) > = e^{-iHt} |B^0>= \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} ( e^{-i(m_L - \frac{i}{2}\Gamma_L)t} |B_L> +e^{-i(m_H - \frac{i}{2}\Gamma_H)t} |B_H> )

So far so good. Then the amplitude for B^0 \rightarrow B^0 will be given by:
<B^0 | B^0(t)>=\frac{1}{2} (e^{-i(m_L - \frac{i}{2}\Gamma_L)t}+e^{-i(m_H - \frac{i}{2}\Gamma_H)t})
and the probability by:
|<B^0|B^0(t)>|^2 = \frac{1}{4} \Big( e^{-\Gamma_H t} + e^{-\Gamma_L t} + 2e^{-(\Gamma_H+ \Gamma_L)t/2} \cos \Delta m t \Big)
If I'd neglect the \Delta \Gamma= \Gamma_L - \Gamma_H \Rightarrow \Gamma_L \approx \Gamma_H \equiv \Gamma this would be written as:
P= \frac{1}{2} e^{-\Gamma t} \Big( 1 + \cos \Delta m t \Big)

Unfortunately I'm said I have to prove that :
P= \frac{1}{2 \tau} e^{-\Gamma t} \Big( 1 + \cos \Delta m t \Big)
I don't know where the \tau comes from in the denominator. Any idea? In fact I don't even know why the probability should have "dimensions"...
 
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I guess this is the probability that the particle decays as B^0 at that time. Which is the probability that the particle "is" a B^0 divided by the lifetime.
This is not completely correct as some decays do not allow to specify the original type with certainty (basically every decay that is not semileptonic).
 
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When you say original type you mean the B^0(t=0)?
 
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When you say original type you mean the B^0(t=0)?
No, I mean the type at decay time. Which is not a well-defined thing in many analyses as you get interference between two different decays (from the mixed and unmixed state).
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The probability is also given in Eq(1) here
http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ex/9901035v1.pdf
See the "will decay as" description directly above equation 1.
 
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So it's more like I start with a B^0 which can in general oscillate and exist in a B^0 /\bar{B}^0 state, and that probability gives the probability of that state components to decay... When there is a mixing it's impossible to figure out in non-semi leptonic decays what we had at the decay?
To me the mixing depends on \Delta m... for pretty small \Delta m (compared to the lifetime and so the meaningful time interval t), the mixing is done really slowly (as shown in the uploaded figures).
 

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Isn't this simply the following? You have calculated the survival probability of your ##B_0## at time ##t## as a function of time, given that at ##t=0## you had a ##B_0## present. That's the usual decay law (it's worse to see, which approximations go into this, because in QT there cannot be strictly valid exponential decay laws; see, e.g., Sakurai):
$$P(t)=\exp(-t/\tau).$$
Then the decay rate is
$$-\dot{P}=\frac{1}{\tau} P(t).$$
 
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So it's more like I start with a B^0 which can in general oscillate and exist in a B^0 /\bar{B}^0 state, and that probability gives the probability of that state components to decay...
Right.
When there is a mixing it's impossible to figure out in non-semi leptonic decays what we had at the decay?
Also true, but your simplified model ignores that part.
To me the mixing depends on \Delta m... for pretty small \Delta m (compared to the lifetime and so the meaningful time interval t), the mixing is done really slowly (as shown in the uploaded figures).
Sure, and you can see this in your formula. Larger Δm lead to faster oscillations.
 
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