New intros to Maxwell's Equations, Special and General Relativity

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The discussion centers around introductory materials on Maxwell's Equations, Special Relativity, and General Relativity, with participants providing feedback, corrections, and observations on the clarity and presentation of these topics. The scope includes conceptual understanding and technical details related to these fundamental theories in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares links to their tutorials on Maxwell's Equations, Special Relativity, and General Relativity, emphasizing a non-technical approach to complex concepts.
  • Another participant praises the links provided.
  • Corrections are proposed regarding mathematical notations in the General Relativity article, specifically concerning the labeling of variables and equations.
  • Some participants discuss the clarity of the presentation of concepts like the Christoffel Symbols and the curvature tensor, expressing concerns about the use of certain mathematical notations.
  • There is a mention of the potential advantages of using tensor notation for a clearer understanding of electromagnetism and relativity.
  • A participant questions whether the curvature tensor can be expressed in terms of differential forms, indicating a search for alternative approaches to the presented material.

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Participants express both agreement and disagreement on various points, particularly regarding the clarity and correctness of mathematical representations. There is no consensus on the best approach to teaching these concepts, as some advocate for avoiding tensors while others see value in their use.

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Some participants highlight limitations in the introductory materials, such as the lack of intuitive explanations for certain mathematical constructs and the need for clearer definitions of terms used in the discussions.

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This discussion may be useful for educators, students, and enthusiasts interested in the foundational concepts of electromagnetism and relativity, as well as those seeking feedback on teaching methodologies in these areas.

Will Flannery
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I've put quick intros to these subjects on my web site, and I'd like to invite readers to comment. The goal of the tutorials is to give as quick an introduction as possible with the miminum of unnecessary technicalities, and yet to get to the essence of the matter . No doubt improvment is possible.

Maxwell's Equations
www.berkeleyscience.com/maxwells.htm

What's unusual - I was always a little buffaloed by the curl and gradient operators, and I set out to give the reader a feel for these operators. I discovered I could present the essence of Maxwell's equations without using them at all, and I'm happy with the result.

Special relativity
www.berkeleyscience.com/relativity.htm

What's unusual - the derivation of the Lorentz transform is by experiment and not algebra. There is also a very quick proof of e=mcc.

General relativity
www.berkeleyscience.com/gr.htm

What's unusual - this you have to see to believe - no use of Einstein's notation so everything is written out - plus there is a special 2-d pedagogical solution to the field equations.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Good links
 
Mistakes in GR book

In your example in the section Curves in Euclidean 3 Space, I believe a(t) should be a(s) in the first equation. In the second equation, -(1/r) should be -(1/R).

It isn't clear to me why a'(s) = 1 in the second equation.
Is length(a(s)) = sqrt(x(s)^2+y(s)^2+z(s)^2) in general?

In the section Curved Surfaces in Euclidean 3 Space:

X(x0,x1) = (x(x0,x1), y(x0,x1), z(x0,x1))
should read
X(u,v) = (x(u,v), y(u,v), z(u,v)) to make it agree with the graphic.

That is all I have found so far. See if you agree. If so, I will post some more.
 
>>> In your example in the section Curves in Euclidean 3 Space, I believe a(t) should be a(s) in the first equation. In the second equation, -(1/r) should be -(1/R).

Correct on both counts: the equations should be (well, they are now)
a(s) = (R*sin(s/R), R*cos(s/R), 0)
and
a'(s) = ((1/R)*R*cos(s/R), -(1/R)R*sin(s/R), 0)

>>> It isn't clear to me why a'(s) = 1 in the second equation.

The 's' parameter is arc length, so, by definition or convention, length(a'(s)) = 1

>>>X(x0,x1) = (x(x0,x1), y(x0,x1), z(x0,x1))
should read
X(u,v) = (x(u,v), y(u,v), z(u,v))

You're right. I'll have to relabel the drawing.

Thanks !
 
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Query to Will Flannery re correction to GR article

Will Flannery said:
>>>X(x0,x1) = (x(x0,x1), y(x0,x1), z(x0,x1))
should read
X(u,v) = (x(u,v), y(u,v), z(u,v))

You're right. I'll have to relabel the drawing.

Question: While I've found this article very helpful in some respects (e.g. clarity re Christoffel Symbols), I'm confused about your intention to relabel the drawing.

a) Has it now been corrected, to what it now shows (i.e. did you relabel the (u,v) to (x0,x1)?,

OR

b) Is it still in need of correction, from (x0,x1) to (u,v)?

And if the latter, then how far down the article does the switch need to be made - just to the end of the paragraph, or all the remaining occurrences of little-x0 and little-x1 (little = non-bold) right through to halfway through the last section on Geodesics and the Curvature of Spacetime?

Advice appreciated - P
 
pellis said:
a) Has it now been corrected,

- P

Yes, I corrected it, changing the (u,v) to (x0, x1) which is the standard notation in the literature. It is used through the rest of the page.
 
Will Flannery said:
Yes, I corrected it, changing the (u,v) to (x0, x1) which is the standard notation in the literature. It is used through the rest of the page.
Thanks for the reply to mine about your correction
 
Will-
If you are still about, and monitoring this thread, perhaps you'd like to comment on the following.

In reviewing your chapters, I notice a common thread as to the mathematical notations. This is not criticism but observation.

In your section on electromagnetism you've managed to work around the div and curl, which are very suspicious objects to begin with. Now, to the new student of electromagnetism, there appears to be a large and arbitrary set of rules set forth. But all of Maxwell becomes so very simple in the notation of tensors using the Levi-Cevita symbol. In other words, the mathematics without tensors is not quite right. Even the tensors are somewhat suspicious without differential forms.

Likewise with special relativity. Gamma is all very nice, because it works, but the differential calculus leaves something untold until special relativity is recase in a form using the Lorentz transform matrix.

I get the same uneasy feeling with the Christoffell symbol. It just seems wrong in the sense of being the basis of a notational structure that somehow needs improvement.
Do you happen to know of any alternatives, or if the curvature tensor, and all, can be recase in terms of differential forms, or a reason they cannot?
- deCraig
 
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Do you happen to know of any alternatives, or if the curvature tensor, and all, can be recase in terms of differential forms,

I also managed to avoid tensors, which, I confess, I think is essential to an understandable introduction (i.e. it's essential to avoid tensors). I did call the curvature tensor the curvature tensor, but I didn't use any tensor operations, or even define tensor. It was at the point of reaching the curvature tensor that my intuition began to fail, and I was happy to be able to get through the field equations and to a solution just based on formula manipulations, really. So, I don't know of any alternatives, but I would agree that my intro doesn't give any kind of intuitive feel for why the curvature tensor does what it does, and that is a major shortcoming.
 

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