Newtonian mechanics and capstan

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The discussion revolves around a problem in Newtonian mechanics involving a capstan, where a rope is wound around a circular body and subjected to different tensions. The original poster seeks to prove a relationship between the tensions based on friction and the angle subtended by the rope.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the tensions Ta and Tb, questioning the clarity of the problem setup and the assumptions regarding the forces involved. Some participants suggest referring to specific literature for clarification, while others present their calculations and seek validation of their reasoning.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing different interpretations of the problem and attempting to derive relevant equations. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered in the form of equations to derive and references to literature.

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Some participants note the lack of a clear diagram to illustrate the problem, which may hinder understanding. Additionally, there are references to specific equations and assumptions about small angles and forces that are under discussion.

Kolahal Bhattacharya
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Consider a capstan.A circular body around which a strong rope is wound.The free ends of the rope are pulled with tension Ta and Tb. Ta>>Tb.Co--eff. of friction is mu.theta is the total angle subtended by the attached portion of the rope on the centre of the drum.Prove that Ta=Tb[exp(-mu theta)]
 
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Not only that, but the description is not very clear. Got a drawing?
 
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I cannot give the picture here.Pleaase refer to Kleppner and Kolenkow 2.24 for this problem.My calclation gives Ta= Tb+(mu)N, where N has the same value as the centripetal force.according to the answer, N should be equal to (Ta-Ta exp(-mu theta)). I could not get it
 
You need to derive the following equations:

(T + dT) cos dtheta - T - mu N ds = 0
(T + dT) sin dtheta - N ds = 0 where N is the normal force / unit length
Use the fact that dtheta is small and eliminate N
This is called Tension on a Cord Wrapped around a Rough Post
 

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