Newton's 2nd Law Problem: Finding Force and Direction of Travel

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The problem involves a particle moving in an xy plane, with its position described by parametric equations. Participants are tasked with finding the magnitude and direction of the net force acting on the particle, as well as the angle of its direction of travel, all while applying Newton's second law.

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  • Participants discuss using the second derivative of the position functions to find acceleration and subsequently force. There is exploration of the relationships between force, acceleration, and the angles involved. Some participants express uncertainty about their approaches and calculations.

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There are various attempts to derive the force function and angles, with some participants questioning their own reasoning. Guidance has been offered regarding the importance of considering the correct quadrant for angle calculations, indicating a productive direction in addressing potential errors.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is a noted concern about the accuracy of calculations and assumptions regarding the signs of components in different quadrants.

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Homework Statement


A 0.25 kg particle moves in an xy plane according to x(t) = -15 + 2t - 4t3 and y(t) = 25 + 7t - 9t2, with x and y in meters and t in seconds. Find formulas at time t<35 sec for the (a) the magnitude and (b) the angle (relative to the positive direction of the x axis) of the net force on the particle (in radians), as well as (c) the angle of the particle's direction of travel (in radians)

Homework Equations


F=ma
Pythagorean thereom
Fx=Fcosθ
Fy=Fsinθ

The Attempt at a Solution


With the x(t) and y(t) being the decoupled position vector, I thought I would use Pythagorean Thereom to come up with the vector r
r=((-4t^3+2t-15)^2+(-9t^2+7t+25)^2)^0.5
r=(16t^6+65t^4-6t^3-397t^2+290t+850)^.5
approximating the square roots for the coeffecients:
r=4t^3+9.06t^2-2.45t^1.5-19.92t+17.03t^0.5+29.15
I have a strong suspicion that I went about this in a very wrong way
 
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As Force=mass*acceleration and the acceleration in each direction is the second derivative of the decoupled position function the acceleration functions would be ax(t)=-24t ay(t)=-18
 
Making the force function=((576t^2+324)^.5)/4 ?
 
Jrlinton said:
Making the force function=((576t^2+324)^.5)/4 ?
Yes.
 
Okay so the angle of the force would then be .25 arctan(-18/-24t) ??
 
or .25 arctan(3/4t) simplified and the angle of the velocity being arctan(-18t/.12t^2)=arctan(3/2t)
 
Those last two were incorrect.
 
Pay attention to the quadrant that the acceleration vector lies in. The arctan function can be a trap when the signs of the x and y components are not both positive. You need to sort out the correct quadrant yourself and adjust the result accordingly.
 

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