Newton's Cradle: Speed of Force Q&A

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The discussion centers around the behavior of kinetic energy in a hypothetical scenario involving a Newton's cradle one light-year long. It is proposed whether the last ball would move instantly upon the first ball's impact. Participants clarify that kinetic energy does have a speed, and the transmission of force occurs through pressure waves. These pressure variations propagate at the speed of sound, which is always slower than the speed of light, meaning the last ball will not move until the pressure wave reaches it. The speed of sound in the material of the balls is estimated to be around 5-10 km/s, further emphasizing that the movement of the last ball is not instantaneous.
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Hey I'm new here and I would like to propose a question about the speed of kinetic energy. If let's say we had a Newton's cradle one light-year long, will the last ball fly up as soon as the first ball hits the second? Assume all the balls are in perfect contact with each other. Does this happen instantly or at light or sub-light speed? I do not think the speed is limited, but what do you people think?

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Kinetic energy does have a "speed."

Futhermore, the balls communicate force via pressure. Pressure variations propagate at the speed of sound, which is different for different media, and is always less than the speed of light.

So no, the ball at the far end won't move until the pressure wave reaches it, which will take some time.

- Warren
 
I think the the Newtons cradle example, the shockwave will travel through the material at the speed of sound (about 5-10 km/s).

Originally posted by chroot
Kinetic energy does have a "speed."
Don't you mean 'does not'?
 
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