Newton's Law of Motion for a Straight Line Motion

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving Newton's laws of motion, specifically addressing the motion of an oil tanker approaching a reef. The scenario includes the tanker moving at a constant speed due to wind, the effects of engine force, and the implications of acceleration on the ship's trajectory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of acceleration and its impact on the time and distance until the tanker reaches the reef. There are questions about the realism of the initial calculations and the significance of rounding errors. Some participants suggest re-evaluating the parameters used in the equations.

Discussion Status

The conversation has evolved with participants correcting initial calculations and exploring the implications of those corrections. There is a recognition that the tanker will hit the reef, and participants are actively questioning the parameters and formulas used to determine the impact speed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of careful consideration of units and the implications of rounding errors on the final outcome. There is an ongoing discussion about the correct interpretation of initial conditions and the formulas applicable to the problem.

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Homework Statement


An oil tanker's engines have broken down, and the wind is blowing the tanker straight toward a reef at a constant speed of 1.5 m/s. When the tanker is 500 m from the reef, the wind dies down just as the engineer gets the engines going again. The rudder is stuck, so the only choice is to try to accelerate straight backward away from the reef. The mass of the tanker and cargo is 3.6 x 107 kg, and the engines produce a net horizontal force of 8.0 x 104N on the tanker. Will the ship hit the reef? If it does, will the oil be safe? The hull can withstand an impact at a speed of 0.2 m/s or less. You can ignore the retarding force of the water on the tanker's hull.


Homework Equations


F = ma
vx = v0x + axt
x = x0 + v0xt + 1/2 axt2
vx2= v0x2 + 2ax(x-x0)
x - x0 = (v0x + vx / 2)t

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't exactly know what to do first, so I first found the acceleration of the ship's engines.
a = f/m = 8.0 x 104N / 3.6 x 107 kg = 2.22 x 103 m/s2

Then I tried to find the time it takes for the ship to hit the reef:
vx = v0x + axt
1.5 = 0 + (2.22 x 103)(t)
t = 6.757 x 10-4 s.

And plugged it into the distance traveled:
x = x0 + v0xt + 1/2 axt2
x = 0 + 0 + 1/2 (2.22 x 103)(6.757 x 10-4)2
x = 5.02 x 10-4 m.

The book's answer said that it's 506 m so the ship will hit the reef, and the speed at which the ship hits the reef is 0.17 m/s, so the oil should be safe.
But I don't know how to get to the correct answers. :(
 
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Don't you think that a distance of 10^{-4} meter and a time of 10^{-4} seconds is a bit unrealistic? :)

In fact I don't think even dividing 10^4 by 10^7 will give you something of order 10^3, so you better check your acceleration. Probably if you fix that error and follow it through your calculation, you will find the correct answer (i.e. if your acceleration is off by a factor 10^6 your distance will be off by the same factor, leading to an answer of order 5.02 10^2 instead). Since your answer will be so close to the critical distance (e.g. it will barely make it or not) be especially careful about rounding: wrong rounding may produce 499.8 meter while it should actually be 500.4 for example, leading to the wrong conclusion.
 
Okay, so I calculated the ship's engine's acceleration again:
a = f/m = 8.0 x 104N / 3.6 x 107 kg = 2.22222 x 10-3 m/s2

Then I tried to find the time it takes for the ship to hit the reef:
vx = v0x + axt
1.5 = 0 + (2.22222 x 10-3)(t)
t = 675s.

And plugged it into the distance traveled:
x = x0 + v0xt + 1/2 axt2
x = 0 + 0 + 1/2 (2.22 x 10-3)(675)2
x = 505.74375 = 506 m.
Oh, thank you, guys, for correcting my miscalculation.

And if I find the speed to determine if the hull can withstand its impact or not?
vx = v0x + axt
vx = 0 + 2.22222 x 10-3(675)
v = 1.5 m/s
I don't know how to get 0.17 m/s ...
 
! said:
Then I tried to find the time it takes for the ship to hit the reef:
vx = v0x + axt
1.5 = 0 + (2.22222 x 10-3)(t)
t = 675s.

This is the time it takes for the ship to stop, not for it to hit the reef.

You found the right distance and determined that it will hit the reef.
Now you want the speed after it's traveled a certain distance(500m)... you want {v_x}^2= v_{0x}^2 + 2a_x(x-x_0)

Make sure you pick the right distances and forumlae!
 
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! said:
And if I find the speed to determine if the hull can withstand its impact or not?
vx = v0x + axt
vx = 0 + 2.22222 x 10-3(675)
v = 1.5 m/s
I don't know how to get 0.17 m/s ...

Why did you take v_0 to be zero? Also, you are using the wrong time. Think careful about what the parameters mean before you plug them in!
 

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