Newton's Law of Temperature Change Differential

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The discussion revolves around an initial value problem related to Newton's Law of Temperature Change, represented by the differential equation \(\frac{dy}{dx} = a(y-b)\) with specific conditions for \(a\) and \(b\). Participants explore the implications of the equation under different values of \(a\) and the integration process involved in solving it.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the differential equation and the correct interpretation of variables, questioning the use of constants and the form of the equation. There is confusion about the integration process and whether to treat certain terms as constants.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the integration, suggesting substitutions and clarifying the form of the equation. There is an ongoing exploration of whether the question requires a solution or simply a qualitative analysis of the cases presented.

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There is uncertainty regarding the correct variable to differentiate with respect to, as well as the interpretation of the problem's requirements. Participants are also considering the implications of different values of \(a\) and \(b\) in the context of the problem.

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I'm a bit confused as to what I do next with this problem.

Consider the initial value problem [itex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/itex] = a(y-b) where y(0) = y0

With a > 0, b = 0, it represents exponential growth, while a < 0, b = 0 gives exponential decay. With y = T, a = -k, k = TA and y0=T0 it gives Newton's Law of Temperature Change,

[itex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/itex] = -k(T - TA)

Solve the given model and give a qualitative sketch for each of the cases 1) a > 0 and 2) a < 0. You may assume b ≥ 0. Include y0= b as one typical solution for each.

So what I did was I applied the integral to both sides of [itex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/itex] = -k(T - TA) yielding,

1 = -k ∫ (T - TA)

But I don't know how to integrate TA
 
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You can't integrate both sides because you have no differential on the right. Part of your problem is that you say y= T but then leave y in the equation.
Write the equation as [itex]\frac{dT}{dx}= -k(T- T_A)[/itex], then as
[tex]\frac{dT}{T- T_A}= -kdx[/tex]
and integrate. TA is a constant. To integrate on the left, let u= T- TA so that du= dT.
 
Manni said:
I'm a bit confused as to what I do next with this problem.

Consider the initial value problem [itex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/itex] = a(y-b) where y(0) = y0

With a > 0, b = 0, it represents exponential growth, while a < 0, b = 0 gives exponential decay. With y = T, a = -k, k = TA and y0=T0 it gives Newton's Law of Temperature Change,

[itex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/itex] = -k(T - TA)

Solve the given model and give a qualitative sketch for each of the cases 1) a > 0 and 2) a < 0. You may assume ≥ 0. Include y0= b as one typical solution for each.







So what I did was I applied the integral to both sides of [itex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/itex] = -k(T - TA) yielding,

1 = -k ∫ (T - TA)

But I don't know how to integrate TA

I think you are mis-reading the problem. It says to solve the given model, and to look at the cases a > 0 and a < 0, etc. To me, that says solve dy/dx = a*(y-b) [= the given model], so there is no "T" involved.

RGV
 
Oh, so we would integrate the constant b as a normal constant correct? I.e. b*x?
 
Not when it is in the denominator! Use the substitution u= T- TA as I suggested.
 
Oh I understand, thank you!
 
Wait, it's dT/dt not dT/dx?
 
The only thing I'm not sure of is if it the question is asking for solutions. If it is can I put the dy/dx equation in the standard differential form,

dy/dx + P(x) = Q(x)

Then, I can determine the integrating factor and solve that way. I was initially thinking of doing that, would it work?
 
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