Newton's Second Law Equation acceleration Question

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The discussion revolves around applying Newton's Second Law to determine the acceleration of objects with different masses under the influence of the same force. The original poster presents a scenario where two objects, m1 and m2, experience different accelerations from the same force, and seeks to find the accelerations for a mass that is the difference and the sum of m1 and m2.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the manipulation of the equation F=ma to find the masses m1 and m2 based on their respective accelerations. There is an inquiry into the specific steps taken by the original poster and a request for clarification on their attempts.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify the algebraic manipulations involved in the problem. Some participants have offered guidance on how to relate the forces and accelerations, while the original poster expresses difficulty in following the provided solutions. The conversation reflects a collaborative effort to explore the problem without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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The original poster references external solutions but struggles with the mathematical reasoning presented. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between force, mass, and acceleration without providing a direct solution.

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Homework Statement


A certain force gives object m1 an acceleration of 12.0 m/s2. The same force gives object m2 an acceleration of 3.30 m/s2. What acceleration would the force give to an object whose mass is (a) the difference between m1 and m2 and (b) the sum of m1 and m2.


Homework Equations


F=ma


The Attempt at a Solution


I found these two solutions online:
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=6754
http://www.jiskha.com/display.cgi?id=1286634662
but I can't follow their math. I tried manipulating the above equation similarly, to no avail.

Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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Which part that you do not understand.
Use the formula a=F/m.
 
Slusho said:

Homework Statement


A certain force gives object m1 an acceleration of 12.0 m/s2. The same force gives object m2 an acceleration of 3.30 m/s2. What acceleration would the force give to an object whose mass is (a) the difference between m1 and m2 and (b) the sum of m1 and m2.

Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I found these two solutions online:
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=6754
http://www.jiskha.com/display.cgi?id=1286634662
but I can't follow their math. I tried manipulating the above equation similarly, to no avail.

Any help is greatly appreciated!
Hello Slusho. Welcome to PF !

What are those manipulations? What have you tried?

F = m1a1 and F = m2a2, where a1 = 12.0 m/s2 and a2 = 3.30 m/s2 .

Therefore, [itex]\displaystyle m_1=\frac{F}{a_1}\text{ and } m_2=\frac{F}{a_2}\,.[/itex] Correct?

Now, use all this with F = (m1 + m2)a1+2 to find a1+2 .

How's your algebra?
 
I figured it out!

[tex]F=(\frac{F}{a_{1}}+\frac{F}{a_{2}})a_{1+2}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{1}{a_{1+2}}=\frac{1}{F}(\frac{F}{a_{1}}+ \frac{F}{a_{2}})[/tex]
[tex]\frac{1}{a_{1+2}}=\frac{1}{a_{1}}+\frac{1}{a_{2}}[/tex]

Thank you so much for you help! I had to work it several ways for a good half hour until I did it correctly.
 

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