Newton's Third Law: Equal Forces & Stationary Object?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around Newton's Third Law of Motion, specifically addressing the implications of equal forces acting on a stationary object. Participants explore the relationship between action and reaction forces and how these relate to motion and equilibrium in different scenarios.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reiterate that Newton's Third Law states the forces between two bodies are equal and opposite, questioning whether this implies that the object must be stationary due to equal forces acting on both sides.
  • One participant clarifies that while equal forces act on two different bodies, these forces do not necessarily result in both bodies being stationary, as each force can cause motion in its respective body.
  • Another participant notes that if no other forces are acting on the system of two bodies, the net force is zero, leading to the conclusion that the center of mass remains at rest or moves at constant velocity, referencing Newton's First Law.
  • A further contribution emphasizes that Newton's Third Law applies to interactions between bodies rather than the net forces on a single body, highlighting the need for an unbalanced force for acceleration to occur.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of Newton's Third Law regarding motion and equilibrium. There is no consensus on whether equal forces necessarily imply that an object must be stationary.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on assumptions about the absence of other forces acting on the bodies in question, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities surrounding the application of Newton's laws in various contexts.

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The Newton's third law states that the force exerted by body A on body B is equal to the force exerted by Body B on Body A . In this case, isn't the object supposed to be stationary because equal forces are acting on both sides?
Can someone please explain to me . Thanks
 
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Which object?
 
Lim Y K said:
The Newton's third law states that the force exerted by body A on body B is equal to the force exerted by Body B on Body A . In this case, isn't the object supposed to be stationary because equal forces are acting on both sides?
Can someone please explain to me . Thanks

The force exerted on body A causes body A to move.
The force exerted on body B causes body B to move.
These are two different forces acting on two different bodies; Newton's third law says that they will be of equal magnitude and opposite direction.

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Lim Y K said:
In this case, isn't the object supposed to be stationary because equal forces are acting on both sides?

If there are no other forces acting on A and B, then the net force on the system of A and B together is indeed zero. It has an important physical consequence: the center of mass of the system either remains at rest, or moves at constant velocity according to Newton's First Law.
 
Lim Y K said:
The Newton's third law states that the force exerted by body A on body B is equal to the force exerted by Body B on Body A . In this case, isn't the object supposed to be stationary because equal forces are acting on both sides?
Can someone please explain to me . Thanks
Newton's Third Law applies to the interaction between one body and another and not the sum of Forces on a single Body, which says that you need a net unbalanced force for acceleration to take place. That's Newton 1. Each of the forces acting on a body (say the strings pulling it and the table it rests on) will have equal and opposite reaction forces - the mass pushes down on the table with the same force as the table keeping the mass up (N3). The tension in the string is the same in both directions (N3) - whether or not the string is causing the mass to accelerate (N1).
 

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