Nicest things to do is finding a butterfly

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the enjoyment of observing and photographing butterflies, particularly in butterfly greenhouses or conservatories. Participants share personal experiences, photography tips, and various butterfly species, while also expressing their appreciation for the beauty of these insects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe their experiences visiting butterfly greenhouses and the joy of capturing photographs of butterflies.
  • Questions arise about the nature and characteristics of butterfly greenhouses, with some participants providing descriptions and links to examples.
  • Photography techniques are discussed, including suggestions for shutter speed and aperture settings to improve butterfly images.
  • Participants share various butterfly species they have encountered, including personal anecdotes about catching butterflies in their youth.
  • There is mention of the differences between butterflies and moths, with some participants sharing images and links to species.
  • Some participants express a preference for butterfly photography over collections of preserved specimens, citing the ease of capturing images with modern equipment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share a common interest in butterflies and photography, but there are varying opinions on the best methods for capturing images and the value of collections versus photographs. The discussion remains open-ended with no consensus on specific techniques or preferences.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific locations and exhibitions, while others express uncertainty about the availability of certain butterfly species in their regions. There are also mentions of personal experiences that may influence their views on butterfly photography.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in entomology, photography, nature enthusiasts, and those looking to visit butterfly conservatories or improve their butterfly photography skills may find this discussion valuable.

  • #61


Andy Resnick said:
Nice photo- excellent sharpness as well; what lens are you using?

All the butterfly pix of these last two weeks that I posted here were make with a Canon EOS 550D and a EF 100mm Macro f2.8 USM

Obviously hand held, and mandatory small aperture (f11-16) and short shutter speed (1/200s) you could either choose for ISO 12,800 and get pea soup noise texture or add a flash and shoot crisp with 100 ISO.
 
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  • #62


Excellent... "Canon's most fun per dollar lens" :)
 
  • #63


yes, absolutely, it is.
 
  • #64


Here's some competition for Andy in the notabutterfly category. I told you that coneflowers attract butterflies, bees, and hummingbirds... :-p

(Fibonacci sequence, anybody?)

beecone.jpg
 
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  • #65


To illustrate that, here is a life size crop of that Morpho menelaus that I posted earlier in this thread:

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Andre said:
Found another butterfly greenhouse. A few of today's captures:

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vrudyp.jpg


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  • #66


turbo-1 said:
Here's some competition for Andy in the notabutterfly category. I told you that coneflowers attract butterflies, bees, and hummingbirds... :-p

(Fibonacci sequence, anybody?)

Andre said:
To illustrate that, here is a life size crop of that that I posted earlier in this thread:


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I'm seeing the advantages of a flash.
 
  • #67


No flash in my case, Andy. Just a little Panasonic point-and-shoot in Macro AF mode. I love that little pocket camera.
 
  • #68


turbo-1 said:
Here's some competition for Andy in the notabutterfly category. I told you that coneflowers attract butterflies, bees, and hummingbirds... :-p

(Fibonacci sequence, anybody?)

@_@ Oooooooooooooh pretty!
 
  • #69


HeLiXe said:
@_@ Oooooooooooooh pretty!
Thanks! Snapshot with a little DMC-ZS3 in macro mode. I'd love to have a Canon 100mm macro (fun!), but for now, I'm getting by with what I've got.
 
  • #70


turbo-1 said:
Thanks! Snapshot with a little DMC-ZS3 in macro mode. I'd love to have a Canon 100mm macro (fun!), but for now, I'm getting by with what I've got.

I'm really impressed! Just shows I need to work on my technique... :)
 
  • #71


This is about the closest you'd get, category: almost-a-butterfly or pond damselflies.

This is a minimum range shot 1:1 macro of a yet to determine species. It's total length estimated just short of 2 in. Image reduced to 16%

2vn48yd.jpg


The lack of DOF and the movement of the reed (and camera :rolleyes: ) precludes manual focussing, lock the focus and readjust the composition. So I used the focus setting "AI Servo", focussing continuously. As a consequence the head is centered in the picture and not a lot of body is visible.

A 100% crop, showing the narrow DOF.

dg03tk.jpg
 
  • #73


Andy Resnick said:
I'm starting to get better: here's a 100% crop using a 24mm macro, stopped down to f/11 or so:
Very nice!
 
  • #74


Why does it look like pictures taken at my lavender bush?
 
  • #75


Borek said:
Why does it look like pictures taken at my lavender bush?

Howdy, neighbor!:)
 
  • #77


Andy Resnick said:
I want to be able to take pictures like this:

Don't feel alone
 
  • #78
Andre said:
But the butterfly (~Christina~, did you identify it already?) was hovering as can be seen from the folded legs and yet it was quite crisp, so I decided to unreject it and do some RAW post processing, to get rid of the noise due to the underexposure.

I still stand by my original guess of the butterfly being a Queen Alexandra's Birdwing.
I found this picture of a closed winged butterfly which looks similar to what you have in your picture.
http://www.arkive.org/queen-alexandras-birdwing/ornithoptera-alexandrae/

Edit: It seems that there are a variety of "Birdwing" butterfly species which generally all have the red body and yellow abdomen.
 
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  • #79


So I went to the butterfly greenhouse in the botanical garden of the University of Utrecht today, right, the one with the paleomagnetic laboratory, https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2304947#post2304947 , the last weekend it is open.

I saw this:

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  • #80


Woah :!) Beautiful Andre. Do you have a larger size? I'd like to set it as my desktop screen :)
 
  • #81


Very beautiful Andre.
 
  • #82


Wow, very beautiful picture, Andre! I love those cute little butterflies!
 
  • #83


Thanks, all and for drizzle the full format picture, uncropped http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/IMG_2379hdn.JPG
 
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  • #84


Wonderful! Cheers Andre :)
 
  • #86


Another butterfly greenhouse today. The wettest hottest so far. I had to change shirts, great that it's cool outside today.

The star of the show

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/but1.jpg

More in close up

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/but2.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/but3.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/but4.jpg

now, these little yellow dots? Pollen? parasite? parasite eggs?:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/but5.jpg

Not the star of the show, but the shot is esthetically the most pleasing IMO:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/but6.jpg
 
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  • #87


Great pictures, I love the DoF you get on the macros. I would maybe play with cropping a bit. E.g. trying a square image format
 
  • #88


M Quack said:
Great pictures, I love the DoF you get on the macros. I would maybe play with cropping a bit. E.g. trying a square image format

Yes you're right, these are mere thumbnails of the whole frames for quick result. There is a lot of finetuning with post processing and cropping ahead.
 
  • #89


Nice! I'm beginning to think butterflies are more vain than cats. They seem to love to pose!
 
  • #90


Absolutely beautiful Andre!
 

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