No idea on how to start finding inverse Laplace Transform

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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse Laplace Transform of the function X(s) = \frac{3(3s+2)}{9s^{2}+12s+4}. Participants express uncertainty about how to begin the problem and explore various manipulations of the function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss attempts to simplify the expression and question the validity of their manipulations. There is mention of using partial fractions and confusion regarding the form of the function in relation to known Laplace Transforms.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on simplifying the expression and have pointed out errors in earlier attempts. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct form for applying the inverse Laplace Transform, with no clear consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the table of Laplace Transforms they have does not include certain forms, leading to questions about how to proceed. There is also mention of previous threads that may relate to the current problem.

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So my professor is really bad and I've had to try to learn to learn this stuff myself. But I have no idea where to start and where to go.

Problem:
X(s) = \frac{3(3s+2)}{9s^{2}+12s+4}Attempt
All I've been able to figure out so far is:
-> X(s) = \frac{3}{(3s+2)^{2}} * \frac{1}{(3s+2)}}

But after that I'm unsure. The table of Laplace Transforms I have doesn't have anything resembling this form:
\frac{1}{(as+b)^{2}}-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-
On a side note, I still have this other thread [https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=465600] that I still am unsure of. Help on this thread would be greatly appreciated
 
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Use partial fractions on X(s)
 
If you know that 9s2+12s+4 factors as (3s+2)2, then how did you reduce X(s) to that?
 
Alright so I tried redoing it and this is what I redid:

-Resimplified the equation
X(s) \frac{3(3s+2)}{9s^{2}+12s+4} <br /> =&gt; \frac{3(3s+2)}{(3s+2)(3s+2)}<br /> =&gt; \frac{3}{3s+2}

The problem here is that I don't know if there is an inverse transformation for the denominator because there is a coefficient in front of the s. Would I factor out a 3 and get this:

\frac{3}{3s+2} =&gt; \frac{3}{3} (\frac{1}{s+ \frac{2}{3}})
 
So now you have

X(s)= 1/(s+ 2/3)

Now do you know any laplace transform that looks like this?
 
Well I have
\mathcal{L}^{-1}(\frac{1}{s + a}) = e^{-at}

So I assume the answer should be:
x(t) = \mathcal{L}^{-1}(\frac{1}{s+\frac{2}{3}}) = e^{\frac{-2}{3}t}?
 
abc617 said:
So my professor is really bad and I've had to try to learn to learn this stuff myself. But I have no idea where to start and where to go.

Problem:
X(s) = \frac{3(3s+2)}{9s^{2}+12s+4}


Attempt
All I've been able to figure out so far is:
-> X(s) = \frac{3}{(3s+2)^{2}} * \frac{1}{(3s+2)}}
No. This doesn't follow from the equation above it.
\frac{3(3s+2)}{9s^{2}+12s+4} = \frac{3(3s + 2)}{(3s + 2)^2}
Now simplify.

EDIT: I see that you corrected this in your later post.

abc617 said:
But after that I'm unsure. The table of Laplace Transforms I have doesn't have anything resembling this form:
\frac{1}{(as+b)^{2}}


-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-
On a side note, I still have this other thread [https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=465600] that I still am unsure of. Help on this thread would be greatly appreciated
 
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abc617 said:
Alright so I tried redoing it and this is what I redid:
This is better, but your notation is confusing. You should not be using =>
abc617 said:
-Resimplified the equation
X(s) \frac{3(3s+2)}{9s^{2}+12s+4} <br /> =&gt; \frac{3(3s+2)}{(3s+2)(3s+2)}<br /> =&gt; \frac{3}{3s+2}
This is what you should have.
X(s) = \frac{3(3s+2)}{9s^{2}+12s+4} <br /> = \frac{3(3s+2)}{(3s+2)(3s+2)}<br /> = \frac{3}{3s+2}

abc617 said:
The problem here is that I don't know if there is an inverse transformation for the denominator because there is a coefficient in front of the s. Would I factor out a 3 and get this:

\frac{3}{3s+2} =&gt; \frac{3}{3} (\frac{1}{s+ \frac{2}{3}})
 

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