Non-conductve sphere with cavity -- find Electric field

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric field inside a non-conductive sphere with a charge density that varies with radius, specifically given by ρ=A/r. The scenario includes a cavity at the center containing a point charge q, and participants are exploring how to calculate the electric field in different regions relative to the sphere's radius.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to account for the varying charge density and suggest that integration is necessary to determine the enclosed charge. There are considerations about how to express the volume and charge contributions from thin spherical shells within the sphere.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct formulation for the electric field, with some participants confirming the general approach while others seek clarification on the integration process and the treatment of volume elements. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, particularly regarding the integration limits and the nature of the charge density.

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Participants are navigating the complexities introduced by the non-uniform charge density and the presence of a cavity, which may affect the assumptions about enclosed charge and volume calculations.

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I have a non conducting sphere with a charge ρ=A/r per uni vollume A is constant. suppose there is a cavity in the centre and within a particle of charge q. i want to find the E inside the sphere in respect with r.

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for radius equal of the cavity i get ##E=kq/r^2## for r bigger than the radius of the sphere ##E=k(Q+q)/r^2## now only one case left
if r is bigger than the radius of the cavity and smaller than the radius of the sphere.
##E4πr^2=\frac{q+ρV}{ε_0} ##
where ρ is the density per unit vollume and V is the vollume
is my enclosed Q right? and my V is 4π(r^3-a^3) where a^3 is the small radius.
 
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Manolisjam said:
is my enclosed Q right?
Since the charge density varies with radius you'll need to take that into account. Hint: an integration is required.
 
gneill said:
Since the charge density varies with radius you'll need to take that into account. Hint: an integration is required.
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Think of the sphere being comprised of many thin spherical shells, each having a slightly different charge density according to their radii. No two shells have the same charge density due to your given expression for the charge density, ρ=A/r. The enclosed charge will be the sum of the charges in those shells "below" the radius of interest.
 
gneill said:
Think of the sphere being comprised of many thin spherical shells, each having a slightly different charge density according to their radii. No two shells have the same charge density due to your given expression for the charge density, ρ=A/r. The enclosed charge will be the sum of the charges in those shells "below" the radius of interest.
##E4πr^2=\frac{q+ \int ρVdr}{ε_0} ## is the right one?
 
Manolisjam said:
##E4πr^2=\frac{q+ \int ρVdr}{ε_0} ## is the right one?
That's the idea, yes.
 
gneill said:
That's the idea, yes.
so i Keep the vollume inside the integral!
 
You want to integrate over the volume of interest, summing up the charges contained in each differential volume element. So really that V should be a dV(r). I assumed (my bad) that that was what you were implying with that V.
 

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