Non-Harmonic Pendulum: Calculating Gravity g

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of gravitational acceleration (g) using a non-harmonic pendulum. Participants explore whether the standard formula for the period of a pendulum can be applied outside the small angle approximation and discuss alternative methods for determining g from larger angles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the applicability of the formula T = 2π Root(L/g) for a pendulum that does not exhibit harmonic motion.
  • Another participant asserts that the formula is only valid under the small angle approximation and suggests that for larger angles, one must use elliptic integrals to calculate the period.
  • A later reply proposes that it is feasible to determine g from a large angle by measuring the amplitude and length, then computing the elliptic integral numerically.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the standard formula for the period of a pendulum, with some asserting it is limited to small angles while others suggest methods for larger angles. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to calculate g.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the dependence on the small angle approximation and the need for elliptic integrals when dealing with larger angles, indicating potential limitations in the methods discussed.

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If the Pendulum doesn't follow Harmonic Motion can we still use the formula

1) T = 2π Root(L/g) ?

2) If not, how can I calculate gravity g?
 
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1) No, this is only true in the small angle approximation.
2) You could simply start from a small angle, so the amplitude-independent formula for the period holds. If you insist on starting from an arbitrary angle, you need to deal with an elliptic integral, see e.g. here. There is a lot of literature on this topic, but if your purpose is to find the value of ##g##, other methods are perhaps better.
 
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In fact, upon closer inspection, it does not seem too hard to determine ##g## starting from a large angle either. If you have a look at that Wikipedia-link I gave and you go to the section "Arbitrary-amplitude period", you can see that ##T## is the product of ##4\sqrt{\tfrac{\ell}{g}}## and an elliptic integral that depends on ##\theta_0## (the amplitude), but not on ##g##. So, if in your experiment you measure ##\theta_0## and ##\ell## and then compute the elliptic integral numerically (or from a table) using your measured value of ##\theta_0##, you can determine ##g## this way.
 
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Thank you soooooooooooooooo much ! :) :)
 

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