Non-Touch Switch: Finding a Component Solution

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The discussion revolves around finding a suitable component for a non-touch switch that can trigger when an object or hand is within a few centimeters. Participants explore various sensor options, including capacitive and infrared sensors, and express preferences for specific characteristics such as non-obstructiveness and the ability to work in an array configuration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a non-touch switch that can trigger at a distance without requiring physical contact, expressing a preference for a specialized IC to avoid a complex assembly of components.
  • Another participant suggests reflective IR sensors like the Fairchild QRB1133 and the Sharp GP2D12, noting their operational distances and potential applications.
  • A different viewpoint proposes using capacitive sensors configured for proximity detection, mentioning the Cypress PSoC and its demo board as a possible solution, while raising concerns about differentiating between multiple sensors in close proximity.
  • One participant shares a link to a circuit design using an infrared proximity sensor, highlighting its cost-effectiveness and clever design, while discussing the need for careful mounting to avoid interference.
  • There are repeated inquiries about the availability of the QRB1133 sensor, with participants discussing pricing and sourcing options, including concerns about potential interference when placing sensors close together.

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Participants express various opinions on suitable sensor types and configurations, but no consensus is reached on a single solution. Multiple competing views on sensor selection and configuration remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations regarding the physical spacing of sensors and the potential for interference, but these issues remain unresolved. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with specific components and their applications.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals looking for non-touch switch solutions in electronics, particularly those exploring sensor technology for proximity detection in arrays.

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Could anybody point me towards a component that could serve the purpose of a non touch switch.

To explain it better, one that would trigger when an object or hand were to be placed within say a few centimeters away from it - capacitive switches I've seen all work by touch.

Id like an array of 10 or so of these so I don't really want to build something by first principles (otherwise i'd have a slew of components everywhere) so perhaps a specialised IC?

Thanks.EDIT: Also if possible something that is non obstructive so It can't be like a infrared sensor like those in shop alarms.
 
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There are reflective IR sensors like the Fairchild QRB1133 that work at fairly short distances, and the Sharp GP2D12 that measures a distance up to about 50cm. Or you can go with a capacitive sensor plate like the old-timey theramin, but they are not very stable.
 
You can use capacitive sensors but set the sensitivity to work as more of a proximity sensor.

I have used the Cypress PSoC to implement such systems. If this is of interest, you might want to check out the CY3240-I2USB Demo board. It comes with an I2C to USB bridge, so you can see what the sensor is seeing from a program on your computer.

I know Microchip and Atmel all have their equivalent capacitive sensing methods as well.

The only thing that is somewhat concerning for this approach is that you want an array of 10+. Depending on your physical spacing, you might have trouble differentiating between sensors (not sure if that matters in your end application).
 
Another thread on this page has the following circuit:

http://electroschematics.com/6161/power-switch-with-infrared-proximity-sensor/

It has a few components in it but it should be cheap enough and work well. It is a clever design that uses a cheap chip in an unusual way.

You just have to mount the transmitter LED and receive phototransistor so that they can't see each other. Then the only signal that can be received is a reflected one.

You could have several close to each other by setting them to different frequencies with R5 and C2.
 
schip666! said:
There are reflective IR sensors like the Fairchild QRB1133 that work at fairly short distances, and the Sharp GP2D12 that measures a distance up to about 50cm. Or you can go with a capacitive sensor plate like the old-timey theramin, but they are not very stable.

The QRB1133 looks like something promising, where do you think I could get a few of these to aus, ebay search came up blank.

In regards to interference, how close are we talking about that the sensors could interfere? Idealy I want the sensor array to be parallel within 3cm of each other.
 
Blenton said:
The QRB1133 looks like something promising, where do you think I could get a few of these to aus, ebay search came up blank.

In regards to interference, how close are we talking about that the sensors could interfere? Idealy I want the sensor array to be parallel within 3cm of each other.

EDIT: found this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/QRD1113-Reflective-Object-Sensor-IC-/110566336244?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19be4466f4#ht_587wt_905

But at $5 a pop, its not too cheap!
 
Hmm, I got some from: http://www.junun.org/MarkIII/Info.jsp?item=14 at $2.50US
YMMV
 

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