Normal force on a rod by the rim of a bowl

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The discussion centers on the direction of the normal force acting on a rod in contact with the rim of a bowl. Participants conclude that the normal force is indeed directed perpendicular to the rod, aligning with the tangent to the bowl's rim at the point of contact. This understanding is reinforced by referencing the mechanics of forces and torque. The consensus is that the normal force cannot be directed horizontally to the left, as it must always act perpendicular to the surface at the contact point.

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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
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I want to ask the direction of normal force acting on the rod by the rim of the bowl. Is the direction perpendicular to the rod or will it be directed horizontally to the left?

My guess would be horizontally to the left because the normal force would be perpendicular to the "plane / surface" which is the tangent to circle (in this case, the tangent to the rim of bowl and the tangent will be vertical). Is this correct?

Thanks
 
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songoku said:
Homework Statement:: Please see below
Relevant Equations:: Torque

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I want to ask the direction of normal force acting on the rod by the rim of the bowl. Is the direction perpendicular to the rod or will it be directed horizontally to the left?

My guess would be horizontally to the left because the normal force would be perpendicular to the "plane / surface" which is the tangent to circle (in this case, the tangent to the rim of bowl and the tangent will be vertical). Is this correct?

Thanks
See section 1 of https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/frequently-made-errors-mechanics-friction/
 
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songoku said:
If my understanding is correct, the direction should be perpendicular to the rod? Thanks
Yes I think so too

If the rod was touching the bowl externally then the normal force would be perpendicular to the tangent at the point of contact.
 
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songoku said:
If my understanding is correct, the direction should be perpendicular to the rod? Thanks
Yes.
 
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Thank you very much haruspex and Delta2
 
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