Normal Modes - 2 springs question

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving normal modes in a system with two springs. Participants are examining the outcomes of matrix multiplication related to the system's equations of motion.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts matrix multiplication of a 2x2 and a 2x1 matrix but encounters conflicting solutions for the ratio of X and Y. Some participants question the validity of the conflicting results and seek clarification on the specific solutions obtained.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering insights into the mathematical relationships derived from the matrix entries. There is a recognition of a potential simplification involving the product of terms related to the square root of 5, which seems to clarify the situation for one participant.

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There appears to be a focus on the interpretation of the results from the matrix multiplication, with specific attention to the relationships between the variables involved. The discussion reflects an exploration of the assumptions underlying the mathematical setup.

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When i do the matrix multiplication of the 2x2 and 2x1 matrix, I get 2 conflicting solutions that don't match at all! So which one do i take to find ratio of X and Y?

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Are you sure they don't match? What 2 conflicting solutions did you get for the ratio X/Y?
 
TSny said:
Are you sure they don't match? What 2 conflicting solutions did you get for the ratio X/Y?

Well it's pretty obvious when it is expanded... the top entry gives something like:

(k/m)Y = (1-√5)(K/2m)X

while the bottom entry gives:

(k/m)X = -(1+√5)(K/2m)Y
 
Did you notice that ##(\sqrt{5}-1)(\sqrt{5}+1)=4##?
 
vela said:
Did you notice that ##(\sqrt{5}-1)(\sqrt{5}+1)=4##?

Oh I see it now, thank you!
 

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