Normalizing an Orthogonal Basis

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The discussion revolves around normalizing an orthogonal basis derived from the Gram-Schmidt process applied to the set {1, t, t^2}. Participants are exploring the normalization of the basis functions and addressing potential issues with orthogonality among them.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the normalization process by dividing each function by its norm. There are questions regarding the orthogonality of the functions, particularly the third function's relationship to the others. Some participants clarify the definition of the norm and the inner product used in the calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing corrections and clarifications regarding the functions and their orthogonality. There is acknowledgment of improved understanding, particularly in the formulation of the third function and its normalization.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the extent of assistance provided. There are noted discrepancies in the expressions used for the functions, leading to further examination of their definitions and calculations.

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Homework Statement


I have used the gram schmidt process to find an orthogonal basis for [itex]{1,t,t^2}[/itex]
which is
[itex] (1,x,x^2 - \frac{2}{3})[/itex]

How to i normalize these

Homework Equations



[itex]e_1=\frac{u_1}{|u_1|}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



[itex]e_1=\frac{1}{\sqrt{\int_{-1}^{1}f(1)g(1)}}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[/itex]


[itex]e_2=\frac{x}{\sqrt{\int_{-1}^{1}f(x)g(x)}}=\frac{x}{\sqrt{\frac{2}{3}}}[/itex]

[itex]e_3=\frac{x}{\sqrt{\int_{-1}^{1}f(x^2-3)g(x^2-3)}}=\frac{x^2}{\sqrt{\frac{-62}{45}}}[/itex]
 
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Just divide each by its norm.
 
There is a problem with your third function. It is orthogonal to x, but not to 1. Each function has to be orthogonal to each other function in your set.
[tex]\int_{-1}^1 1 (x^2 - 2/3) dx~=~\left[\frac{x^3}{3} - (2/3)x\right]_{-1}^1~=~ -2/3[/tex]

Also, is the function x^2 - 2/3 or x^2 - 3? You are using both in your calculations.
 
One other thing. The norm of a function is the square root of the inner product of it and itself.
beetle2 said:
[itex]e_2=\frac{x}{\sqrt{\int_{-1}^{1}f(x)g(x)}}=\frac{x}{\sqrt{\frac{2}{3}}}[/itex]
You shouldn't have f(x) and g(x) in there for <x, x>, since f(x) = g(x) = x. It should be like this:
[itex]e_2=\frac{x}{\sqrt{\int_{-1}^{1}x*xdx}}= ...[/itex]
 
thanks your right my u3 should be [itex]x^2-\frac{1}{3}[/itex]
which makes
[itex]e_3=\frac{x^{2}-\frac{1}{3}}{\sqrt{\int_{-1}^{1}x^{2}-\frac{1}{3}*x^{2}-\frac{1}{3}dx}}= ...[/itex]

= [itex]\frac{x^2-\frac{1}{3}}{\sqrt{frac{8}{45}}}[/itex]

hows that look

The innner product of [itex]x^2-3 and \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} = 0[/itex] so they're orthogonal
 
Much better.

For the quantity in the radical, you left off the \ before frac in your LaTeX code. That's why it looks like it does. Should look like this:
[itex]\frac{x^2-\frac{1}{3}}{\sqrt{\frac{8}{45}}}[/itex]
 
Thanks for your help guys much appreciated
 

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