# Normalizing wavefunction of (x^2)e^(-x^2)?

lonewolf219

## Homework Statement

ψ(x,t)=Axe$^{-cx^2}$e$^{-iωt}$

1=∫ψ*ψdx

## The Attempt at a Solution

1=$\int$A$^{2}$x$^{2}$e$^{-2cx^2}$

I think I multiplied ψ*ψ correctly... I'm surprised a little that there is an x^2 with this problem. We have not discussed these integrals in class. I watched a video on how to integrate e$^{-x^2}$, but don't know what to do with the product x^2 and e^(-2cx^2)

Homework Helper
Did you take statistical mechanics ? You learn about integrating gaussians there. If not, then at least a course in mathematical methods of physics should have explained you this.

Anyways, think I(c) = int_R exp(-cx2) dx. Compute it then differentiate the result wrt c. (c is a parameter).

kostas230
I'll give you a hint.
I presume you know that: $\int_{- \infty}^{+\infty} e^{-\lambda x^2}dx = \sqrt{\pi/ \lambda}$. Consider the function:
$$I(\lambda )=\int_{- \infty}^{+\infty}e^{-\lambda x^2}dx$$
Then:
$$\frac{d}{d\lambda }I(\lambda )=-\int_{- \infty}^{+\infty}x^2e^{-\lambda x^2}dx$$

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Homework Helper
You could also integrate by parts.

lonewolf219
Thanks for the help, guys! Didn't take statistical mechanics, unfortunately...

Does this mean that the derivative of $\sqrt{\frac{\pi}{\lambda}}$ is my answer?

Jolb
vela is correct, but kostas230's trick is one of the most beautiful in mathematics and one of the most important in physics. The technique is referred to as using a "generating functional."

kostas230
I don't know if you ever had to evaluate the Gaussian integral, but here's an elegant way to do it. Consider the integral:

$$I= \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-(x^2+y^2)}dxdy$$

By changing from cartesian coordinates to polar coordinates, the integral above becomes:
$$I= \int_{0}^{+\infty}\int_{0}^{2\pi}re^{-r^2}drd\theta$$

I trust that you are able to evaluate the integral. Can you find the gaussian integral $I'=\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}e^{-x^2}dx$ using the above results? ;)

lonewolf219
Thanks kostas230, appreciate your help ... The result should be in the form of a Hermite polynomial, is that correct? I think the derivative of re$^{-r^2}$ is

e$^{-r^2}$(1-2r$^{2}$)

Not quite sure what to do next

kostas230
No, I said: compute the integral, not find the derivative of the integrated function

lonewolf219
If you are asking me to find the integral of re$^{-r^2}$drd$\theta$ from 0$\leq$r$\leq$$\infty$ and 0$\leq\theta$$\leq$2$\pi$ I believe it is $\pi$. And then the integral with a coefficient λ in the power would be $\frac{\pi}{\lambda}$

Mentor
That is right, and it allows you to find the value of the original Gaussian integral, if you find the relation between that and the formula kostas230 used.

lonewolf219
Thank you, mfb.

So is it that I$^{2}$= $\frac{\pi}{\lambda}$

So the derivative of $\frac{\pi}{\lambda}$ is -$\frac{\pi}{\lambda^2}$?

Since the derivative would be 2I for I$^{2}$, should I divide -$\frac{\pi}{\lambda^2}$ by 2, so that I=-$\frac{\pi}{2\lambda^2}$ ?

Although A is a positive value.. would the negative sign in front of kostas' integral cancel this one, so that I =$\frac{\pi}{2\lambda^2}$ ?

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Mentor
So the derivative of $\frac{\pi}{\lambda}$ is -$\frac{\pi}{\lambda^2}$?
I think you are mixing two different approaches here.

kostas230
My first post was on an algorithmic process in finding integrals of the form: $I_n=\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}x^n e^{-\lambda x^2}dx$ presuming that you know the integral $I_0=\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}e^{-\lambda x^2}dx=\sqrt{\pi}$. My other posts where to show you a way to compute the integral $\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}e^{-\lambda x^2}dx=\sqrt{\pi}$.