Not able to simplify this summation formula?

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The discussion revolves around simplifying a summation formula involving geometric series. The original poster seeks assistance in understanding how to transform one equation into another, specifically focusing on the equivalence of two summation expressions.

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  • Participants discuss the properties of geometric series and the implications of treating certain variables as constants. There are questions about the correct formulation of the summation and the simplification of terms involving 'y'. Some participants also reflect on the starting index of the summation.

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The discussion has seen various attempts to clarify the simplification process, with some participants providing insights into the nature of geometric series. There is acknowledgment of corrections made to the original approach, and one participant reports having resolved their confusion after receiving guidance.

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Hi,

Please see the attached pdf file. Equation 1 and equation 2 are equivalent.
Can someone please help me understand how to simplify equation 1 to get to equation 2?

Thanks.
 

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The summation variable is n, so x can be considered a constant hence it can be pulled out the front.

What is

[tex]1+r+r^2+...+r^n[/tex]

equal to?
 
Mentallic said:
The summation variable is n, so x can be considered a constant hence it can be pulled out the front.

What is

[tex]1+r+r^2+...+r^n[/tex]

equal to?

Please see the new attached file.
This is how far I could go.
 

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The point is that both of your series are geometric series. What you do in your last post is essentially repeating the proof that the sum of the geometric series, [itex]\sum_{n=0}^\infty r^n[/itex] is [itex]\frac{1}{1- r}[/itex] except that you have [itex]r= \frac{1}{\gamma}[/itex].
 
HallsofIvy said:
The point is that both of your series are geometric series. What you do in your last post is essentially repeating the proof that the sum of the geometric series, [itex]\sum_{n=0}^\infty r^n[/itex] is [itex]\frac{1}{1- r}[/itex] except that you have [itex]r= \frac{1}{\gamma}[/itex].

There is no mention of infinite sums.

musicgold, so what is

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n}\frac{1}{1+y}[/tex]

And hence, let n=10. Also,

[tex]\frac{1-\frac{1}{\gamma^{n+1}}}{1-\frac{1}{\gamma}}[/tex]

Can be simplified further. At least get rid of the fraction within the denominator.
 
Please see the attached file.

I think, I am close, but not sure how to get rid of the 'y' in the encircled term.
What am I missing?
 

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Mentallic said:
There is no mention of infinite sums.

musicgold, so what is

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n}\frac{1}{1+y}[/tex]

Sorry, this was supposed to be

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n}\frac{1}{(1+y)^i}[/tex]

musicgold said:
Please see the attached file.

I think, I am close, but not sure how to get rid of the 'y' in the encircled term.
What am I missing?

We're looking for

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{10}\frac{1}{(1+y)^n}[/tex]

while you're finding

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{10}\frac{1}{(1+y)^n}[/tex]

In your second attachment when you found

[tex]s=\sum\frac{1}{\gamma^n}=1+\frac{1}{\gamma}+\frac{1}{\gamma^2}+...[/tex]

You began the sum with n=0 when you should've began with n=1.
 
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Mentallic,

Yes. I was able to solve it with that correction. See attached. Thank you very much.
 

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Good work :smile:
 

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