Not too bright

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This field is obviously lacking in serious studies or those that are available are so old they have slipped off the net, suffice to say I'm not convinced either way myself by the seemingly bland and inconclusive evidence I've seen on this thread, and folks it's not through a want of trying to find basic simple comparitive information, I am quite appauled that in an issue that may save lives either way, there appears to be nothing to guide poeple to make a choice about helmet or not.

If the US wants to come to any sort of decision about the law I guess it needs to have decent significant studies which explore these issues, if the internet is any indication it has nothing much to go on, or if it does it's playing it's hand close to its chest. If you came into this thread with any sort of bias either way, I don't think theres anything concrete here that's going to change your mind, I know that in this country at least(UK) Bringing in the laws for motorcycle helmets reduced deaths to a level significant enough to warrant keeping them, trouble is all I've got to go on is documentaries I saw years ago, because wherever these figures come from they are now burried and not easily available to the public. In short you can't make any sort of informed choice from the info available and that seems to me to be sad to say the least.:grumpy:
 
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Obviously, a helmet is going to reduce peak acceleration of your skull bones and reduce breakage of them. Is it going to do squat for the secondary collision of your brain with the inside of you skull?
Reducing the peak acceleration of the skull also reduces the peak stress on the brain during impact with the skull.
 
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Gokul43201 said:
Reducing the peak acceleration of the skull also reduces the peak stress on the brain during impact with the skull.
Don't know. I think it would be a fairly thorny problem in fluid dynamics.
There is going to be a few milliseconds before the internal impact takes place.
Will the skull bones adsorb the peak anyway before that second impact occurs?
 
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It looks like nobody has any real info for me.

I'm going to post this observation, maybe it will save someone's life.
I am involved with groups of people where helmets have just recently become popular.

Here is what I have noticed.
Before helmets, if someone took a shot to the head they would get a nice goose egg.
They would say "I hurt" and call it a day.

With helmets, what I see is people walking around with concussions.
Eye dilation mismatch, general coordination problems, crooked smiles.

A conversation with one of these people.
M: You have a concussion.
T: I'm Ok, I was wearing a helmet.
M: How did I know you crashed?
T: The helmet kept me safe. I'm perfectly all right.
M: No you're not. You have a concussion.
T: You're crazy. I was wearing a helmet.
M: Say hello to Mr. Darwin for me. :rolleyes:

So if you do bounce that shiny new helmet off the pavement.
Go find a safety officer and ask them to check you for concussion.
They may say no, but Believe them if they say yes.

Or ask a friend to look into your eyes, see if your pupils (the black dot in the center) match size.
Ask them if you smile is crooked.
Grasp their hands and squeeze gently. Does the squeeze match?

If you fail any of these or its "Maybe I'm not sure", call it a day please.
If you fail all of them, you should go seek professional medical help.

PS: Another purely personal opinion. I see a big increase in concussions. I think where before helmets you fell, your neck muscles were strong enough to keep your head from bouncing and that with helmets they are not. There is that internal impact thing.
Or maybe they just went home and I never saw them.
I don't know.
The problem is that these people are NOT going home, they are going out for more of the same. :yuck:

For whatever reason, some people consistently fall on their head.
Chances are this group should wear a helmet. o:)

I've never seen anyone actually break their skull doing this stuff.
However, I have personally watched 11 people die, all from internal injury.
I've probably seen quite a few more than that.
But, I quit asking after the first 4 years or so, its now about 16 years.
My housemate, for a number of years, was a top leader in the safety organization.
Too depressing, I just didn't want to know anymore. :cry:
 
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Always wear a helmet.

Never support a helmet law.
 

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