NTC thermistor heat dissapation calculation with graphs

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum voltage that can be applied to an NTC thermistor to prevent it from overheating beyond 65 °C. The problem involves analyzing two graphs: one showing the resistance of the thermistor as a function of temperature and the other depicting heat dissipation at room temperature.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the thermistor's resistance and temperature, and how to use the provided graphs to find the necessary voltage. Questions arise about the appropriateness of using standard resistor equations for a thermistor.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the calculations and the nature of thermistors, suggesting that they behave similarly to resistors under certain conditions. However, there is still uncertainty regarding the application of formulas specific to resistors in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with specific temperature and power dissipation values derived from the graphs, and there is an emphasis on ensuring that the thermistor does not exceed a certain temperature threshold. The original poster expresses concern about adhering to forum rules and the validity of their approach.

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Homework Statement
The attached graph_1 represents the resistance R of a specific NTC thermistor as a function of its temperature ϑ. In the attached graph_2, the heat dissapation P of the thermistor at room temperature of 22 ˚C is displayed as a function of temperature of the thermistor.

Determine the maximum voltage that may be applied to the thermistor to prevent it from heating up above 65 ˚C!

Assume that the thermistor is initially at room temperature.
Relevant Equations
heat dissapation
I couldn't solve this problem. Any tips or help would be appreciated. If I am violating against any rules please comment, as this is my second post :-).
 

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theanswerai said:
Homework Statement:: The attached graph_1 represents the resistance R of a specific NTC thermistor as a function of its temperature ϑ. In the attached graph_2, the heat dissapation P of the thermistor at room temperature of 22 ˚C is displayed as a function of temperature of the thermistor.

Determine the maximum voltage that may be applied to the thermistor to prevent it from heating up above 65 ˚C!

Assume that the thermistor is initially at room temperature.
Relevant Equations:: heat dissapation

I couldn't solve this problem. Any tips or help would be appreciated. If I am violating against any rules please comment, as this is my second post :-).
Both graphs have Temperature on the horizontal axis. Draw vertical lines on the two graphs at 65C -- What two datapoints does that give you? How can you then use those two datapoints to determine the maximum applied voltage? :smile:
 
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The graph reveals that the power dissapated must be about 320 mW. The resistance at 65°C is about 115 Ω. Now we can simply plug in these values: $$V²=P*R⇒V=√PR⇒V=√36.8≈6V$$
Is this correct? I am not sure because this is how to calculate the voltage for a resistor and in this problem we have a thermistor...
 
Looks good to me. A thermistor is just a resistor with a high thermal coefficient of resistance. So when it stabilizes, it just looks like a resistor as long as the voltage across it is not changing.
 
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Thanks a lot for your help! 🙏
 
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