Number of elementary particles in an atom

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The discussion clarifies that the term "number of elementary particles" in an atom is ambiguous, particularly regarding the nucleus. It emphasizes that while electrons are elementary particles, protons and neutrons are not, and counting quarks or gluons does not yield meaningful results. The number of protons and electrons in an atom can be determined through atomic mass and chemical properties, with the understanding that protons equal electrons. The historical context highlights that this knowledge is the result of centuries of scientific development. Ultimately, the counting of particles in an atom relies on established scientific methods and principles.
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How Number of elementary particles in an atom are counted?
 
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What particles are you counting?
 
"Number of elementary particles" is not a well-defined quantity, especially for the nucleus.
You can count electrons (elementary), protons and neutrons (not elementary), but trying to count the elementary quarks, photons or gluons doesn't give a meaningful result.
 
Say number of electrons and protons. We have been taught hydrogen has 1 proton and electron each which forms an hydrogen atom. My Q is how these particles numbers were counted?
 
i.physics said:
Say number of electrons and protons. We have been taught hydrogen has 1 proton and electron each which forms an hydrogen atom. My Q is how these particles numbers were counted?

For most of the common stuff:
The mass of the atom tells us the number of neutrons plus the number of protons (google for "atomic mass").
The chemical properties of the atom tell us the number of electrons (google for "periodic table").
We know that the number of protons must be equal to the number of electrons.

That's enough information to determine the number of protons, the number of neutrons, and the number of electrons.

Be aware, however, that it all looks a lot easier in hindsight... We're talking about several centuries of hard work, with each new development built on the previous one, to produce the neat tables that we see today.
 

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