Number of moles necessary to get piston back to initial position

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on calculating the number of moles required to return a piston to its initial position in a thermodynamic system. Key equations are presented, including the relationships between pressure, volume, and temperature for both states A and B. The work done by the gas on the spring is calculated, leading to a heat transfer value of approximately -3750 J. The final temperature at state B is derived to be one-fourth of state A, resulting in a calculated need for 4 moles of gas to achieve the desired state. The change in moles is determined to be 3 moles, indicating the amount of gas needed for the piston to return to its original position.
lorenz0
Messages
151
Reaction score
28
Homework Statement
In a cylindrical piston of section S a piston can move without friction. A mole of ideal monoatomic gas is confined to the left, the right chamber is empty and contains a spring with elastic constant k which would be at rest if the piston were all the way to the left.
Initially the gas is at rest in an "A" state (##p_A = 10^5 Pa,
V_A = 25 dm^3##). It takes place through an exchange of heat with the outside
a slow transformation until reaching a "B" state with volume
halved. Calculate :
a) the heat ##Q## exchanged by the gas with the external environment to complete the transformation,
b) the entropy change ##\Delta S_G## of the gas,
c) how many moles ##n_{agg}## of gas must be added to bring the piston back to the initial position assuming that the temperature remains that of state "B"?
Relevant Equations
##F_{spring}=-kx, \Delta U=Q-L, W=\int_{a}^{b} \vec{F}\cdot\vec{dx}, \Delta S=nC_V\ln(\frac{T_f}{T_i})+nR\ln(\frac{V_f}{V_i}), PV=nRT##
a) ##T_A=\frac{p_AV_A}{nR}=300.7K, P_A V_A=kL^2=nRT_A##, ##P_B S=k\frac{L}{2}\Rightarrow P_B V_B=k(\frac{L}{2})^2 \Rightarrow P_B=\frac{kL^2}{2V_A}=\frac{P_AV_A}{2V_A}=\frac{P_A}{2}##, ##W_{spring\to gas}=\int_{L}^{L/2}kxdx=-\frac{3}{8}kL^2=-\frac{3}{8}nRT_A####\Rightarrow Q=L+\Delta U=-\frac{3}{8}nRT_A+n\cdot\frac{3}{2}R (\frac{T_A}{4}-T_A)\simeq 3750 J##

b) ##\Delta S_{gas}=nC_V\ln(\frac{T_f}{T_i})+nR\ln(\frac{V_f}{V_i})=nC_V\ln(\frac{T_A /4}{T_A})+nR\ln(\frac{V_A/2}{V_A})=-4nR\ln(2)=-23 J/K##

EDIT: I think I have managed to solve also part c)

c) ##T_B=\frac{P_BV_B}{nR}=\frac{1}{nR}\cdot\frac{kL^2}{2V_A}\cdot\frac{V_A}{2}=\frac{1}{4}\frac{kL^2}{nR}=\frac{1}{4}\cdot\frac{P_AV_A}{nR}=\frac{1}{4}T_A## so ##n_f=\frac{P_AV_A}{RT_B}=\frac{10^5\cdot 25\cdot 10^{-3}}{8.314\cdot\frac{300.7}{4}}mol=4mol## so ##\Delta n=n_f-n_i=(4-1)mol=3mol##
 

Attachments

  • piston.png
    piston.png
    7.7 KB · Views: 126
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
In part (a), your W is the work done by the gas on the springbecause ##Q=W+\Delta U##. So, for Q, I get $$Q=-1.5RT_A=-3750\ J$$

The rest looks good. Very nice job.
 
Last edited:
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top