Obtain a fourier series equation from a given graph

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The discussion revolves around obtaining a Fourier Series expression from a described periodic function, specifically f(x) = -x for -1/2 < x < 1/2, with a period of 1 and a magnitude of 5. Participants explore the approach to derive the series representation, focusing on the properties of the function and the relevant mathematical techniques.

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  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in starting the problem and seeks guidance on how to approach obtaining a Fourier series expression.
  • Another participant notes that the identified period allows for finding the fundamental frequency and mentions that the Fourier series will represent the function as a sum of sines and cosines, with coefficients determined by the Fourier integral.
  • It is pointed out that since the function is odd, the Fourier representation will only contain sine terms, as including cosine terms would disrupt the odd symmetry.
  • A participant references an external page for the sine series representation and questions the integration limits for calculating the coefficients, suggesting that they may need to adjust the limits based on the function's period.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the integration limits used in the external reference, explaining that they integrate from 0 to pi due to the normalization of periods and the symmetry of the function.
  • A formula for the coefficient b_n is shared, indicating the integral form needed to compute it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the odd nature of the function leading to a sine-only Fourier representation. However, there are still uncertainties regarding the specific integration limits and the application of the Fourier series formula.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the integration limits for calculating the coefficients, as well as the assumptions made about the normalization of periods in the referenced material.

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The problem statement:
Obtain a Fourier Series Expression Form from the above graph:

I can't post the graph, so I will describe it. It's a periodic function with period 1 and magnitude 5. The equation is the following: [itex]f(x) = -x, -1/2<x<1/2[/itex]

I'm really stuck at trying to obtain a series expression. I really don't know how to start this problem. If anyone can tell me how to approach it I would appreciate it.
 
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ashifulk said:
I'm really stuck at trying to obtain a series expression. I really don't know how to start this problem. If anyone can tell me how to approach it I would appreciate it.

You've identified the period so you should be able to find the fundamental frequency. The Fourier series will represent the signal as a sum of sines and cosines at the fundamental frequency and its harmonics. The coefficients of the sinusoids are found with the Fourier integral.

There is a shortcut in this problem. The function is odd... do you know what that tells you about the sines and cosines in the Fourier representation?
 
Since the function is odd the Fourier representation will only contain sines...
 
I think I found the solution. On this page (http://www.sosmath.com/fourier/fourier2/fourier2.html) it has the Fourier representation of the sine series. But on there the intergral for bn goes from 0 to pi, is that because they are assuming that that is the half of the period of the sine function?

If that's true, in my case I just have to solve for the intergral from 0 to 1/2 correct? And then plug bn back into the series expansion formula...?
 
ashifulk said:
Since the function is odd the Fourier representation will only contain sines...

Yes that's right. Any cosines added to the result would destroy the odd symmetry so no cosines can be involved in representing the original function.

ashifulk said:
I think I found the solution. On this page (http://www.sosmath.com/fourier/fourier2/fourier2.html) it has the Fourier representation of the sine series. But on there the intergral for bn goes from 0 to pi, is that because they are assuming that that is the half of the period of the sine function?

If that's true, in my case I just have to solve for the intergral from 0 to 1/2 correct? And then plug bn back into the series expansion formula...?

On that page they've assumed functions have had their periods normalized to 2pi and so that they are periodic from -pi to pi. They integrate over half the period (0 to pi) instead of the whole period (-pi to pi) because the integrand is the same from -pi to 0 as from 0 to pi so they just integrate from 0 to pi and double it.

Don't be afraid to apply the equations yourself :)

[itex]b_{n}=\frac{2}{T}\int_{T}x(t)sin(n\omega_{o}t) dt[/itex]
 
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