Fourier transform (got right answer, but not matching graph)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Fourier transform, specifically focusing on the scaling property and the representation of the rect function in the frequency domain. Participants are attempting to determine the correct answer to a problem involving the Fourier transform and its graphical representation.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims to have derived an answer using the scaling property and duality but expresses uncertainty about the final answer being option A.
  • Another participant suggests checking a specific equation from an external resource to clarify the properties of the Fourier transform.
  • Several participants discuss the interpretation of the rect function, questioning whether it spans from -w to +w or from -2w to +2w.
  • A participant references a formula indicating that in the time domain, the coefficient of 't' is k, and in the frequency domain, the rect pulse spans from -K to +K, leading to further debate about the correct answer.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the graph not matching their answer, despite obtaining a correct expression in rect form.
  • Another participant provides a definition of the rect function and explains its implications for the specific case being discussed, suggesting that it confirms option A as correct.
  • Participants express relief and agreement regarding the correctness of option A, although some still express uncertainty about the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the correct answer, as multiple participants express differing opinions on whether the answer is option A or D. Some participants agree on the interpretation of the rect function, while others remain uncertain about the implications of their findings.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of the rect function's definition or its graphical representation in relation to the Fourier transform, leading to ongoing uncertainty in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Scaling property and property of dual. I got the answer.

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the answer using scaling property and using property of dual.
x1(t)---> X2(W)----(another Fourier transform)--->2(3.14) x1(-w)
But I think the final answer should be A.
1/4 rect (w/8(pie)) has time period of 8
Even when I use area under frequency domain = 2(3.14)x(t) at t = 0, I get A as answer.
I tried google but couldn't find in the expression rect (k w) where k is constant, what will the time period be.
 

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I got the answer in terms of equation or rect value. But I don't think (1/4) rect (w/8π) is D. I think it's A.
I'm searching on google how to represent: rect (w) but am failing.
Does rect (w) mean it spans from -w to +w or does it mean it spans from -2w to +2w?
 
Even as per this formula:
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in Time domain, the coefficient of 't' is k
and in frequency domain the rect pulse spans from -K to +K
Do you think A is right answer instead of D?
 

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Can somebody please help me with this question? I get the matching answer in rect form but I think (1/4) rect (W/8 pie) is option A and not Sure as they've marked.

Thanks in advance.
 
jaus tail said:
But I don't think (1/4) rect (w/8π) is D. I think it's A.
This is correct. The rect function is defined according to
$$
\operatorname{rect}(x) = \begin{cases} 1, & |x| < 1/2 \\ 1/2, & |x| = 1/2 \\ 0, & |x| > 1/2\end{cases}
$$
In your case, this means that it is one when
$$
\left\lvert \frac{\omega}{8\pi}\right\rvert < \frac 12 \quad \Longleftrightarrow \quad \lvert \omega \rvert < 4\pi
$$
 
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jaus tail said:
Does rect (w) mean it spans from -w to +w or does it mean it spans from -2w to +2w?
I don't think that question makes sense.
rect(f(x)) spans from f(x)=-½ to f(x)=+½.
rect##\left(\frac{\omega}{8\pi}\right)## spans from ##\frac{\omega}{8\pi}=-\frac 12##, so from ##\omega=-4\pi##.
So yes, I agree it should be A.

Took too long typing... Orodruin got there first.
 
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Thanks a lot. I was freaked out thinking i was wrong somewhere. So A is right answer. Thanks.
 

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