Obtain Equation Using Hamilton's Principle

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The discussion focuses on applying Hamilton's principle to derive equations involving kinetic and potential energy, specifically for a system described by kinetic energy \( E_k \) and potential energy \( E_p \). The kinetic energy is expressed as an integral involving the time derivatives of displacement functions, while the potential energy includes terms based on spatial derivatives. The user struggles with the variation of potential energy and believes their reasoning may be flawed, particularly regarding the derivatives of displacement. There is a mention of an "extended Hamilton's principle," which incorporates work into the Lagrangian formulation, raising questions about its validity. Clarification is sought on the correct application of Hamilton's principle in this context.
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I want to obtain equation using Hamilton principle but I just couldn't figure it out;
i have The kinetic energy :
\begin{equation}
E_{k}=\dfrac{1}{2}m_{z} \displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \left[ \left( \dfrac{\partial w(x,t)}{\partial t}\right)^{2}+\left( \dfrac{\partial v(x,t)}{\partial t}\right)^{2}\right] dx
\end{equation}
and The potential energy $ E_{p} $

\begin{equation}
\begin{split}
E_{p} &= \dfrac{1}{2}EI \displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \left[\dfrac{\partial^{2} w(x,t)}{\partial x^{2}} \right]^{2} dx + \dfrac{1}{2}T \displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \left[\dfrac{\partial w(x,t)}{\partial x} \right]^{2} dx \; + \\
& \dfrac{1}{2}EA \displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \left\lbrace \dfrac{\partial v(x,t)}{\partial x} \; + \; \dfrac{1}{2} \left[\dfrac{\partial w(x,t)}{\partial x} \right]^{2} \right\rbrace^{2} dx
\end{split}
\end{equation}
The work is given by :
\begin{equation}
\begin{split}
W &=W_{F}+W_{d}+W_{m} \\
&=\displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \left\lbrace \left[ f(x,t)-c_{1} \dfrac{\partial w(x,t)}{\partial t}\right] w(x,t) \;-\; c_{2}\left[ \dfrac{\partial v(x,t)}{\partial t}\right] v(x,t) \right\rbrace \;dx \\
&+ u_{T}w(x,t)+u_{L}v(x,t)
\end{split}
\end{equation}
and i should use The extended Hamilton’s principle to obtain the equation
\begin{equation}
\displaystyle\int\limits_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}\ \delta\left( E_{k}-E_{p}+W\right) dt = 0
\end{equation}
shuch that :
\begin{equation}
\delta \displaystyle\int\limits_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}\ L dt = \displaystyle\int\limits_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}\ \delta L dt = \displaystyle\int\limits_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}\ \left( \dfrac{\partial L}{\partial q}-\dfrac{d}{dt}\left(\dfrac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}}\right) \right) \delta q dt
\end{equation}

the variation for the Kinetic energy i think it's :
\begin{equation}
\displaystyle\int\limits_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}\ \delta E_{k_{1}} dt = -\displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \displaystyle\int\limits_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}\ m_{z}\ddot{w} \; \delta w \; dt \; dx
\end{equation}
and
\begin{equation}
\displaystyle\int\limits_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}\ \delta E_{k_{2}} dt = -\displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \displaystyle\int\limits_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}\ m_{z}\ddot{v} \; \delta v \; dt \; dx
\end{equation}
but the variation for potential energy i couldn't do it , because what i think is
\begin{equation}
\dfrac{\partial E_{p}}{\partial w} = 0
\end{equation}
because
\begin{equation}
\dfrac{\partial w''}{\partial w} = 0
\end{equation}
i know there is something wrong with my reasoning but I don't know what it is.
what should I do?
 
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What system are you applying Hamilton's Principle to?
What you have called the "extended Hamilton's Principle" looks a bit strange to me, but I hesitate to say too much until I know what problem you are working.
 
the system that I'm applying Hamilton's Principle to , is the Lagrangian "L" such that
\begin{equation}
\begin{split}
L&=E_{k}-E_{p}+W=\\
&\dfrac{1}{2}m_{z} \displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \left[ \left( \dfrac{\partial w(x,t)}{\partial t}\right)^{2}+\left( \dfrac{\partial v(x,t)}{\partial t}\right)^{2}\right] dx-\\
&\dfrac{1}{2}EI \displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \left[\dfrac{\partial^{2} w(x,t)}{\partial x^{2}} \right]^{2} dx + \dfrac{1}{2}T \displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \left[\dfrac{\partial w(x,t)}{\partial x} \right]^{2} dx \; +
\dfrac{1}{2}EA \displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \left\lbrace \dfrac{\partial v(x,t)}{\partial x} \; + \; \dfrac{1}{2} \left[\dfrac{\partial w(x,t)}{\partial x} \right]^{2} \right\rbrace^{2} dx+\\
&\displaystyle\int\limits_{0}^{L}\ \left\lbrace \left[ f(x,t)-c_{1} \dfrac{\partial w(x,t)}{\partial t}\right] w(x,t) \;-\; c_{2}\left[ \dfrac{\partial v(x,t)}{\partial t}\right] v(x,t) \right\rbrace \;dx \\
&+ u_{T}w(x,t)+u_{L}v(x,t)
\end{split}
\end{equation}
where
\begin{equation}
m_{z},EI,EA,T,c_{1},c_{2} \;\;\; are \;\;\; constants
\end{equation}

but i thought i should use Hamilton's Principle like this :
\begin{equation}
\displaystyle\int\limits_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}\ \delta\left( E_{k}-E_{p}+W\right) dt = 0 \Longrightarrow
\displaystyle\int\limits_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}\ \left( \delta E_{k}-\delta E_{p}+\delta W\right) dt = 0
\end{equation}
and i am calling it "extended Hamilton's Principle" because the Lagrangian is usualy kinetic energy - potential energy but when now there is work in the equation
 
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