Off the cliff with velocity and gravity

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving motion and gravity. The original poster presents a scenario where a vehicle is decelerating before reaching a curve and subsequently falls from a cliff, raising questions about the calculations of final velocity and fall time.

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  • Participants explore the calculations for final velocity under deceleration and question the validity of the equations used. There is also an examination of the time it takes to fall from a height of 3000 meters, with discussions about the correct application of physics equations.

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Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the original poster's calculations, specifically regarding the equations used for determining fall time and the application of factors in the equations. There is an ongoing exploration of these issues, with no clear consensus reached yet.

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Participants note that the original poster's calculations may be influenced by misunderstandings of the physics involved, particularly regarding the relationship between distance, acceleration, and time. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the results, indicating a need for clarification on the equations used.

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Homework Statement


You slam on the brakes and begin decelerating at 20,000 km/h2! The curve sign said you have to be down to 80 km/h before you hit the curve or you'll go over the cliff. You have 10 seconds until you reach the curve. Is your final velocity going to be down to 80 km/h by the time you reach the curve?

The current speed is 180.7 km/hr

Homework Equations


If a = fv-sv/t then solving for final velocity is fv = a(t) + sv


The Attempt at a Solution


divide the number of seconds by 3600 to get the number of hours = 0.002hr

fv = -20,000 km/h2(0.002h) + 180.7 km/h

= 140.7km/h or is it 140.7 km/h2



Homework Statement


So, you go over the edge. This is it, you are dead! The cliff you just fell off is 3000m high. At gravity's 9.8 m/s2 acceleration, how many seconds do you have until you meet your doom?


Homework Equations


a= d/t2


The Attempt at a Solution


d = 3000m
a = 9.8 m/s2

I guess need to isolate t2 first, to get t2 = d/a, so t2 = 3000m/9.8m/s2

3000m/9.8m/s2 = 306 seconds? this doesn't seem correct, seems like it would take too long to hit the bottom

Thanks for all help
 
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3000 meters, 3 kilometers, is almost 2 miles high! You think it wouldn't take about 3 minutes to fall 2 miles?
 
No, it wouldn't.

First, you're missing a factor of two in your equation to find fall time, and second, you're forgetting a square root. You had the proportionality correct (as t2 is proportional to d), but you are completely forgetting about the fact that t is squared in your final answer.
 
Ok, so I did the problem correct, but I'm not "seeing" the end result as a logical answer is what you are saying??
 
No, you did the problem incorrectly.

First, your equation is wrong. Where did you get the equation that a = d/t2?

(Specifically, it's missing a factor of 2)

Second, near the end, you state that t2 is equal to 3000 m / (9.8 m/s2). However, you then solve it and say t = 3000/9.8. You dropped the exponent.
 

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