Oil temperature in a hydraulic hand pump

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the temperature of oil in hydraulic hand pumps, particularly those capable of reaching 10,000 psi. Participants explore the effects of compression on oil temperature and the operational characteristics of these pumps, including their ability to maintain high pressure over time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the temperature of oil and pipes during compression in hydraulic hand pumps.
  • Another participant suggests that hand-operated pumps may not experience significant temperature changes, citing personal experience with a 12-tonne bottle jack that does not warm up.
  • A different participant notes that high-pressure, low volumetric flow pumps used for pressurizing cylinders do not show appreciable temperature increases.
  • There is a question about the ability of these pumps to sustain 10,000 psi for extended periods, with a focus on the structural design of the pump.
  • One participant mentions that high operational velocities lead to increased temperatures, while high pressure alone does not necessarily correlate with temperature rise.
  • Another participant proposes that locking out back-flow in hydraulic systems could allow for sustained pressure without further pump operation, making the duration of pressure less relevant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the temperature changes associated with hydraulic hand pumps, with some suggesting minimal temperature increase while others highlight factors like operational velocity and structural design. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of temperature behavior and sustained pressure capabilities.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached consensus on the temperature effects during compression or the implications of sustained high pressure, indicating potential limitations in assumptions about pump design and operational conditions.

trini
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If anyone here has experience with hydraulic hand pumps(those 10000 psi models), could you tell me how hot the oil, and by extenstion the pipes get during compression?
 
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I'm not familiar with this particular scenario. I would surmise, though, that anything hand-operated will experience an almost unnoticeable change of temperature. My 12-tonne bottle jack doesn't even warm up. Don't take my word for it, though; there are experts in fluid dynamics who will be responding soon.
 
The only ones I use are the very high pressure but extremely low volumetric flow. They are used to pressurize cylinders for things like stretching of shafts prior to tightening a nut. Those have no appreciable temperature increase.
 
can they be used to sustain a 10000 psi pressure for an extended period of time? what make is it?
 
High velocities of operations are behind increased temperature, high pressure is not.

Whether something can hold 10000psi for extended periods depends on its structural design.
 
trini said:
can they be used to sustain a 10000 psi pressure for an extended period of time? what make is it?

I would expect that, as with most hydraulic mechanisms, you can just lock out the back-flow. The pump then has nothing to do, so the duration is meaningless. Just pressurize the system and close the valve.
 

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