Music Old music classics for our young members

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The discussion revolves around Jethro Tull, highlighting the band's significance in rock music and its appeal across generations. Participants share nostalgic memories and favorite songs, noting that Jethro Tull won a Grammy in 1989 for Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance. While some younger members express unfamiliarity with the band, others emphasize its timeless quality and influence. The conversation touches on the generational gap in music appreciation, with many younger listeners discovering classic rock. Additionally, there are reflections on Ian Anderson's vocal decline over the years and the band's evolving sound. The dialogue also includes humorous exchanges about music preferences and the impact of modern music videos, drawing comparisons to classic film techniques. Overall, the thread captures a blend of admiration for Jethro Tull's legacy and a light-hearted exploration of music across ages.
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Mother used to sing along to Jethro. The memories aren't good at all...
 


DBTS said:
Mother used to sing along to Jethro. The memories aren't good at all...
I guess you're in an odd age range. Everyone of us oldies were singing them in chat. Sorry, I was too young to have kids when they were popular, and my mother was too old.
 


I love Jethro Tull. Does that makes me not young? :cry:
 


I'm 25 and I love Jethro Tull...
 


Interesting trivia, Jethro Tull won the 1989 Grammy Award for best Hard Rock/Metal performance.
 


Their performances have always been excellent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoy91sYdQPE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8eoATGm1VM

From a later album - Songs from the Wood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2MgU7PNHgw
 
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I am young and I have no idea who this guy is and I can't stand his music .
 


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╔(σ_σ)╝ said:
I am young and I have no idea who this guy is and I can't stand his music .

I was wondering about the thread title. It should read, "Songs for our old members". :biggrin:

That said, Jethro Tull rocks, you whippersnapper! :-p
 
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I was speaking with a young member and he had never heard of Jethro Tull, which is why the ttile, thought I'd lure some youngsters in.
 
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In order, my faves:
Skating Away (on the Thin Ice of a New Day)
Songs from the Wood
Thick as a Brick

Aqualung and Loco Breath are great, but somewhat overplayed, IME.
 
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╔(σ_σ)╝ said:
I am young and I have no idea who this guy is and I can't stand his music .

Really, you don't know Jethro Tull? He was an agriculturist in the 1700's. He invented a device that sows seeds more effectively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jethro_Tull_(agriculturist )
 
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DaveC426913 said:
In order, my faves:
Skating Away (on the Thin Ice of a New Day)
Songs from the Wood
Thick as a Brick

Aqualung and Loco Breath are great, but somewhat overplayed, IME.

Oh and The Whistler!
 
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I'm young, but I've heard of Jethro Tull and even listen to them :biggrin:

Btw, my dad has the Thick As A Brick LP (vinyl), it has a great newspaper-type design.
 
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Oh yes, and I've even seem them live...I think about 5 or 6 years ago. Was a nice concert.

Edit: one of my favourites:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpO_oVtXCa4
 
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Evo said:
I was speaking with a young member and he had never heard of Jethro Tull, which is why the ttile, thought I'd lure some youngsters in.

It is interesting to note that in many ways, the generation gap no longer exists. Many young people seem to like much of the stuff us old folks liked. :biggrin: And many older people like popular music. I've noticed more than a few example in recent years, of parents going to concerts with their kids to see groups they both like.
 
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╔(σ_σ)╝ said:
I am young and I have no idea who this guy is and I can't stand his music .

Jethro Tull is like sushi. If you start with the exotic stuff first, you'll never go back.

You have to start with something that suits your palate, then it slowly becomes an addiction...

But I would recommend reading the words to the songs before attempting to sing them in chat. I think I got half of them wrong.

And whatever you do, do NOT sing that one line from Aqualung if they do not know you are singing Aqualung, because everyone in chat will stop talking, and think you are a total weirdo. :blushing:
 
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Ian Anderson had "differences" with Mick Abrahams, which led to Mick's banishment. The "This Was" album was a compilation of stuff they had in the can before Mick got canned. Hard to argue with the success of the later line-up, but I really liked the music produced by the original crew.
 
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BTW, I saw Tull at the start of the US's Aqualung tour. Anderson flung his flute up like it was a baton, spun around and missed the catch. A replacement was thrown in from off-stage, and he said "That happens".
 
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OmCheeto said:
But I would recommend reading the words to the songs before attempting to sing them in chat. I think I got half of them wrong.

And whatever you do, do NOT sing that one line from Aqualung if they do not know you are singing Aqualung, because everyone in chat will stop talking, and think you are a total weirdo. :blushing:
He goes down to the bog and warms his feet?BTW, I know that line you are referring to. Watching as the frilly panties run is something that I reserve for Victoria's Secret models, though.
 
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Jethro tull is my favorite classic rock band. I do hate the fact that Ian Andersons voice started going down the crapper by like 1978 I think that was heavy horses right? After that it was musically amazing he went in so many new directions but vocals, my god, they were never the same.
 
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Donaldson said:
Jethro tull is my favorite classic rock band. I do hate the fact that Ian Andersons voice started going down the crapper by like 1978 I think that was heavy horses right? After that it was musically amazing he went in so many new directions but vocals, my god, they were never the same.
Smoker and drinker... Lots of voices went down that way. Some vocalists managed to craft a career out of damaged voices, but others just faded.
 
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Yeah but when I hear stuff from Stand up, this was, aqualung and TAAB then listen to stuff like roots to branches and it is like ... oh man ... Then to see him try and do a song like locomotive breath with that voice its just chaos.
 
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turbo-1 said:
Smoker and drinker... Lots of voices went down that way. Some vocalists managed to craft a career out of damaged voices, but others just faded.
Some bands crafted a career out of booze-damaged minds. The Pogues.
 
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This is more like a song for the "young members"

 
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Curl said:
This is more like a song for the "young members"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV2ssT8lzj8



Wow.

That was intense.

Kind of like the '60s. Only, um, different.

Definitely a song for the "old members".

Thank you Curl.
 
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Curl said:
This is more like a song for the "young members"



I can't stand that this type of music very much, but I play a lot of instruments. (and I am still young).

Im more a fan of:



 
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Hepth said:
Im more a fan of:



I like that. They remind me a bit of Men at Work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBoxECCK81w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeG-hNXXy6I
 
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Hey! I don't distinguish between young and old really. Who's counting except for a bunch of physicists?!

Here's my band's new music video called "Don't Beat Yourself Up"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6AfpFWj2WU

 
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Curl said:
This is more like a song for the "young members"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV2ssT8lzj8


Even for most "young members" that song is still terrible.







Some stuff that I listen too. Only a small sample though :)
 
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Okay, I believe we are talking 1968,

Simon and Garfunkel, from the graduate





 
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What is the domain of "young"?
 
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Dembadon said:
What is the domain of "young"?
Born in the 80's.
 
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I'm young but really like these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qve_dx2TMLU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ZGKALMMuc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvnWuOjJDh4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgaD54YcXpA
 
  • #36
You missed my favorite Tull:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2RNe2jwHE0

Actually Tull/Bach
 
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Also from that time (1968)

Ralph McTell - Streets Of London



covered by about every artist after him, including...

Roger Witthaker 1970:


and Cat Stevens 1971 Moonshadow
 
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Evo said:
Born in the 80's.

Drat!
 
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i think these qualify. the 25+6-4 may be recorded in 80s or 90s, tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSevt_i51w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ennMD1fPtXA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSOaoPDO16Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTFD1C4tVIg
 
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Here's one to make up for my foibles...

George Harrison says at the start of the video that the Beatles pretty well invented MTV with this deliberate music video from the 60s... enjoy this song and video, "Rain", by the Beatles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdrGS__yg6Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdrGS__yg6Q&feature=related
 
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baywax said:
George Harrison says at the start of the video that the Beatles pretty well invented MTV with this deliberate music video from the 60s...

I have wondered what could be considered the first "music video" and I don't think "Rain" from 1966 is it, nor that the Beatles, themselves, created this style. Rather I think modern music video style was invented by Richard Lester, for the Beatles, when he directed their first movie "A Hard Day's Night".

This essay on the making of that film is pretty long, but worth it if you're interested in the origin of the modern music "video":

http://www.beatlesmovies.co.uk/hard-days-night/background.asp

I'll quote the operative part:

Prior to A Hard Day's Night, the majority of British and American pop musicals had relied upon the long established tradition of song performance derived from the classical Hollywood musical. Indeed, in the vehicles of Presley and Richard the genre’s central musical sequences were based on the lip-synched performance of songs by a solo singer or group which, occasionally combined with minimal onscreen backing sources (for example, in the case of the Presley cycle, his guitar), essentially attempted to articulate the illusion of ‘real’ authentic, diegetic, performance. While such performances were traditionally, and obviously necessarily, accompanied by non-diegetic background music (the 'unseen' musical accompaniment), the underlying importance of this formal aesthetic was to reproduce an illusory spectacle of ‘genuine’ performance, the key factor being the audience’s belief that the stars’ performances were authentic. However, Lester's partial employment of a humorous surrealism (and its resulting disposal of the conventionally ‘realist’ aesthetic) meant that it was no longer necessary, or, for that matter, uniformly desirable, to interpret the central musical numbers via conventionally representational sequences of performers miming to a backing track and pretending to play instruments. A Hard Day's Night is arguably the first film of its kind to stage central musical numbers which are not tied to performance.

While this approach is employed in the film's opening ‘chase’ sequence, it is also evident from the very first real musical number, ‘I Should Have Known Better’, where the first few verses of the song are accompanied by footage of the group playing cards in the baggage car of the train. Indeed, as with the film’s non-musical sequences, Lester was keen to break with uniform performance realism as early into the film as possible in order to ‘establish the principle that there would not just be realism’.26 However, the most pronounced example of this anti-realism can be seen towards the film’s closure, where ‘Can't Buy Me Love’ is used to accompany a sequence in which, freed from the confinements of their celebrity, the group cavort in a park. In this way, Lester’s film freed the representation of the musical number from its traditional generic slavery; he allowed the pop song the opportunity to work in a similar manner to conventional incidental music, as an abstract entity capable of punctuating action which is not performance-oriented. While this move was evidently prompted by a surrealist aesthetic, it ultimately owes more to the director’s need to convey the emotion inherent in the Beatles’ songs; while the surrealist aesthetic made such sequences ‘possible’, what made them desirable was Lester's feeling that performance was not necessarily adequate to convey meaning on an emotional level. Although he accepts that the film was the first pop musical to break with performance-oriented musical numbers, the director is quick to stress that the form of the musical sequences was ultimately a by-product of a desire to convey emotion. Lester modestly explains: ‘I don't think one ever sits down and says, “I'm going to do something which will change the face of musical history, and will be known in ten years time as MTV”... You don't do it for those reasons, you do it because you think “what do you need?” [emotionally] at this point.’

The Rain video is very much the same style as the musical sequences from A Hard Day's Night so, while the Beatles may have been the first to release a disembodied video (separate from a film), Lester created the unique style and it's been used in videos ever since.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15kWlTrpt5k

more rain... :mad:

but then again, after the rain, we all say; "Here comes the sun!" :smile:

as before, I never saw this video until just now, I just liked the music.
 
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Evo said:
Born in the 80's.

So then what does that make me, being born in 1992?

That said, since you so graciously provided "old" music for the "young" members (and those terms are totally subjective), here is some "young" music I enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bb8jUQl-_A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynb8QKDF2xA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_kzsOWa-c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWuZcWI2YVI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUK2QmdUXas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xPaeONSn_8

What can I say, I'm a metalhead.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
I have wondered what could be considered the first "music video" and I don't think "Rain" from 1966 is it, nor that the Beatles, themselves, created this style. Rather I think modern music video style was invented by Richard Lester, for the Beatles, when he directed their first movie "A Hard Day's Night".

This essay on the making of that film is pretty long, but worth it if you're interested in the origin of the modern music "video":

http://www.beatlesmovies.co.uk/hard-days-night/background.asp

I'll quote the operative part:



The Rain video is very much the same style as the musical sequences from A Hard Day's Night so, while the Beatles may have been the first to release a disembodied video (separate from a film), Lester created the unique style and it's been used in videos ever since.

Thank you Zooby Shoe... I realize that Hard Days Night was a complete marketing promotion of the Beatles first really popular tunes. But can't we say that about Doris Day's movies or Elvis' Jail House Rock or even "Singing In The Rain" with Gene Kelly?

What the short and to the point vignette of the Beatles "Rain" does is allow for slightly less of an attention span in the teenage or under population. They don't have to sit through 2 hours of running around on a train or in a studio to hear the ground breaking songs. They just get exactly what they want totally packaged up in a 1 song wonder of a clip.

So, although its tempting to compare Hard Days Night to a modern day video, its really no different from an Elvis movie or, as I've mentioned, a Doris Day flick.

Its when we see Rain offered as a visual and an aural sensation bundled into one, short experience that we begin to catch a glimpse of the future and the "music video".
 
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The REAL Black Magic Woman, performed by the man who wrote it (Peter Green) and the group that he formed (Fleetwood Mac). Santana's version is a poor imitation, IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWkqACt1Xi8

Another Peter Green classic. The young blond guy with the page-boy and the killer vibrato is Danny Kirwan, and the Hobbit with the maracas is Jeremy Spencer. These three guys were a force to be reckoned with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE4HGlmtOcg
 
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  • #49
for a moment i thought he was singing in Japanese lol
 
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baywax said:
Thank you Zooby Shoe
Interesting way of parsing it into a first and last name. Makes me wonder...

Its when we see Rain offered as a visual and an aural sensation bundled into one, short experience that we begin to catch a glimpse of the future and the "music video".

If the "one, short experience" is what you feel makes the music video a music video, then you're right. But you have to realize that without Lester that one, short experience might, to this day, simply consist of shots of the group performing the song.

For my money what's exiting about the music video is that you can get things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7K72X4eo_s

in which there is not one shot of the actual singer or instrumentalists. The visuals are all fantasy, but support the song perfectly.
 

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