One-Dimensional Box: Analyzing Butadiene's UV/VIS Spectrum

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The discussion revolves around analyzing butadiene's UV/VIS spectrum by modeling the π electrons as moving in a one-dimensional box. The problem involves estimating the box length based on bond lengths and comparing it to the energy associated with electronic transitions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the energy levels of a one-dimensional well and the relevant equations for calculating energy differences. Questions arise regarding the appropriate equations to use and how to relate the energy of transitions to the box length.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using the energy equation for a one-dimensional box and suggested equating energy differences to find the box length. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the calculations needed to compare the box length and energy transitions.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty about the specific equations to use and how to apply the given information effectively. Participants express a lack of clarity on the energy levels and their relationship to the problem setup.

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consider butadiene H_2 C = CH-CH=cH_2 and assume for simplicity that \pi electrons move on a straight line (one -dimensional box) whose length l can be estimated as equal to two C=C bond lengths (2*1.35 angstrom) , plus one C-C lengths. Butadiene has four \pi that fill the n=1 & n=2. the transition observed in a UV/VIS spectrum thus corresponds to the exitationof ane electron from the n = 3 state. Experimentally one finds that this corresponds to the absorption of light with a wavelengths of 217 nm. Compute and compare the lenghts of the 0ne-D box suggested by the sum of the bond length and by the energy of the transition.

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Well what are the energy levels of a 1D well with length L?
 
E = \frac {n^2 h^2}{8 m l^2}
is that what I am to use?
If it is may be energy is calculated from E = hv
and the information given then equate that to the energy difference calculated between n=3 and n= 2 ,
if I am headed in the correct direction
 
Yes. You will want to find the L that gives that energy difference, and you will want to use the L given to you to find what energy difference that gets.
 
nickjer said:
Yes. You will want to find the L that gives that energy difference, and you will want to use the L given to you to find what energy difference that gets.

thanks, nickjer.
regards.
 

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