One Dimensional Slab Heat Transfer Taylor Expansion in Glasstone

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of Taylor series expansion in the context of heat transfer in a one-dimensional slab, as referenced in Sam Glasstone's 'Nuclear Reactor Engineering'. Participants are exploring the derivation and implications of the incremental form of the Taylor series in relation to heat flow and differential control volumes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the transition from (dt/dx)_(x+dx) and its representation in the Taylor series expansion.
  • Another participant references an external resource on the incremental form of the Taylor series but admits uncertainty in deriving it.
  • A different participant explains the concept of neglecting higher-order terms in the Taylor series due to the smallness of the differential, leading to a formulation of net heat flow.
  • There is a discussion about the distinction between partial and total differentials, emphasizing that they cannot be canceled in the context provided.
  • One participant suggests that the Taylor series expansion in this context pertains to the first derivative rather than the function itself, indicating that the derivatives involved are of higher order than the original function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the derivation of the incremental form of the Taylor series or its application in the heat transfer context. Multiple viewpoints and uncertainties remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need for further clarification on the derivation of terms in the heat equation and the implications of using Taylor series in this scenario. There are also mentions of external resources that may not fully address the specific questions raised.

terryphi
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Hi There,

I came across the following passage in Sam Glasstone's 'Nuclear Reactor Engineering'

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See where I underlined in red that taylor series expansion? I don't understand how (dt/dx)_(x+dx) is equal to that.

I know it's a Taylor series expansion, but where did the x+dx go?
 
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Well,

I know it's the incremental form of the Taylor series:
http://geophysics.ou.edu/solid_earth/readings/taylor/taylor.html

But I have no clue how to derive this incremental form.
 
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The differential is supposed to be small, so we can neglect higher order terms in the Taylor series expansion since squaring a small number will give you an even smaller number. So you have heat entering and exiting your differential control volume,

That is Net Heat Flow:

qx- qx+dx.

See the heat enters at position x and leaves at a position x + a very small amount (dx). Now if we do a Taylor series expansion

qx+dx= qx +(dqx/dx)*dx

Take this expression and substitute into the above expression for net heat flow.

qx-qx+dx=qx-qx+(dqx/dx)*dx

Then:
qx-qx+dx=(-dqx/dx)*dx

No you can't cancel those two dx terms because one is a partial differential and the other is total. The one in parentheses is the partial differential.

Now we can describe qx using Fourier's law

qx=-kA(dT/dx).

Substitute this into our above expression

-d/dx*(-k *dydz*dT/dx)*dx

Net heat flow in x direction is now

d/dx*(kdT/dx)*dxdydz

The area in the x direction is given by y times z, similarly in the y direction area will be given by x and z

If you do those equations for the y and z directions and then divide the whole equation by dxdydz you will obtain the heat equation.

I assume you were ok with the other terms in the heat equation. If not I'm happy to explain the derivation of those as well
 
terryphi,

I looks like a Taylor series expansion for the first derivative instead of the function itself.

The Taylor series expansion for function "f" about x = 0 is:

f(x) = f(0) + df/dx dx + 1/2 d2f/dx2 (dx)^2...

In this case, the function f is dT/dx; so all the derivative are one degree higher.

Greg
 

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