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The discussion revolves around two distinct physics problems: one involving two blocks connected by a string over a pulley, and the other concerning the acceleration of a lawn roller subjected to a horizontal force. The first problem raises questions about the differing tensions in the string and the application of forces on the blocks, while the second problem focuses on the dynamics of a rolling cylinder and the conditions for rolling without slipping.

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  • Participants explore the reasons for differing tensions in the pulley system and question the validity of their tension equations. In the lawn roller problem, there is discussion about using torque to find angular acceleration and the relationship between linear and angular motion.

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Some participants have provided equations and insights into the problems, particularly regarding the lawn roller's acceleration and friction. However, there remains uncertainty about the application of concepts and the correctness of the approaches taken, with no clear consensus reached on the best method to solve the problems.

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Two blocks are connected by a string of negligible mass passing over a pulley of radius .250m and moment of inertia I. The block on the frictionless incline(it has a picture of incline with block 1 on it at theta = 37, and block 2 is hanging off the side by the pulley) is moving up with a constant acceleration of 2 m/s^2. I can find the moment of inertia of the pulley if I have the tensions T1(block 1 before the pulley) and T2(block 2 after the pulley) I am having trouble with 2 things. Why are the tensions different in the two parts of the string and are the tensions just T2 = (m2)a + (m2)g and T1 = (m1)a - (m1)gsin(theta) with a = 2? Because these do not give me the correct tensions, but I am thrown off in the first place by the tensions being different, any help would be VERY appreciated. Thank you very much.
 
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A constant horizontal force is applied to a lawn roller in the form of a uniform solid cylinder of raidus R and mass M. Show that the acceleration of the center of mass is 2F/3m. the minimum coefficient of friction neccesary to prevent slipping is F/3mg. If anyone could just give me a quick overview on how to approach these, that would be great. Thanks a lot for any help
 
Where the Force F is acting
 
F basically splits up and connects on both sides of the roller in the center of the end caps. At first I thought you could use torque to find the angular acceleration and use that to find the center of mass acceleration but my answers are not coming up correct.
 
How you have applied torque equation if the force is acting at the centre. And is it starting rolling without sliding
 
Well, that would be why it isn't working, I am not really sure how to go about it, besides the kinetic energy, but I am not sure exactly how that would work with it just rolling horizontally.
 
i got the answer just wait
 
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Applying the force equation
<br /> F-f=Ma_{cm}//f=\frac{MR^2\alpha}{2}<br />
now as there is rolling without slipping
a_{cm}=r\alpha
solving the above equation
u will get a_{cm}=\frac{2F}{3M}
 
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Where f is frictional force

which will be equal to \mu Mg=f
where f=F/3
 
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