OpAmp Circuit Analysis: Finding the Differential Equation for Vo

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The forum discussion centers on deriving the differential equation for the output voltage (Vo) in an operational amplifier (op-amp) circuit using nodal analysis. Key equations derived include those at nodes V1, VP, VN, and V2, which involve resistances R1, R2, R3, R4, R5, and R6, as well as capacitors C1 and C2. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly applying nodal analysis and eliminating variables to simplify the equations. The consensus is that the system is second-order, requiring both first and second derivatives of Vo and Vin in the final equation.

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  • #31
NascentOxygen said:
If you combine your first and fourth equations, the derivatives can disappear and you will be left with V2 in terms of things you know.
##\frac{V_1-V_{in}}{R_1}+\frac{V_1-V_p}{R_2}+\frac{V_2}{R_6}+\frac{V_2-V_o}{R_5}=0##

becomes

##\frac{\frac{R_3V_O}{R_3+R_4}+R_2C_1(\frac{R_3\dot{V_O}}{R_3+R_4})-V_{in}}{R_1}+\frac{R_2C_1(\frac{R_3\dot{V_O}}{R_3+R_4})}{R_2}+\frac{V_2}{R_6}+\frac{V_2-V_o}{R_5}=0##
How would I get rid of V2?
 
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  • #32
Isolate V2. Determine ##\dot V_2##.

Now you can substitute for all necessary terms so as to leave you with an equation relating Vo to Vin.
 
  • #33
NascentOxygen said:
Isolate V2. Determine ##\dot V_2##.

Now you can substitute for all necessary terms so as to leave you with an equation relating Vo to Vin.
I'm not really following. There is no other equation with V2.
 
  • #35
The Electrician said:
If you use the D operator technique, I think you will improve your ability to solve the system:

http://www.codecogs.com/library/maths/calculus/differential/linear-simultaneous-equations.php

http://www.solitaryroad.com/c658.html
Even with d operators, how would I get rid of V2? There is only one equation with V2
If I combine NodeV2 and NodeV1, I get rid of the derivatives.
If I derive the combined equation and then solve NodeV1 for V_2' and plug into get rid of V_2', would that work?
 
  • #36
eehelp150 said:
If I derive the combined equation and then solve NodeV1 for V_2' and plug into get rid of V_2', would that work?
That's what I've been anticipating.
 
  • #37
You seem to want to 'get rid of derivatives'. You can't. In fact the problem asks for the differential equation for Vo. That will include time derivatives of Vo and/or Vin.

Had you been asked to find Vo itself that would mean solving the diff. eq. But you weren't given an expression for Vin so you can't solve for Vo.
 

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