Opinions on textbooks on Analysis

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The discussion revolves around opinions on Barry Simon's "A Comprehensive Course in Analysis," a five-volume set. Participants explore the suitability of these texts for a physics major studying mathematics for personal interest, as well as alternative mathematical areas and resources for study.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether to pursue Simon's analysis series after completing other texts in real and complex analysis.
  • Several participants reference an old poll regarding another book by the same author, noting it is part of a different series.
  • There is a discussion about the confidence in Barry Simon's writing based on the author's reputation.
  • Another participant seeks reviews from pure math graduates or professionals regarding Simon's series but finds a lack of available reviews.
  • Some participants suggest exploring other areas of mathematics, such as algebra, topology, and differential geometry, before diving deeper into analysis.
  • One participant mentions a plan to study differential geometry alongside Simon's analysis, while also taking a numerical PDE course.
  • A suggestion is made to consider Hewitt and Stromberg's "Real and Abstract Analysis" for a focus on measure theory.
  • Participants discuss the importance of studying group and representation theory for physicists, recommending various texts in that area.
  • There is a light-hearted exchange about the tools used in research, including favorite writing instruments.
  • Ultimately, one participant decides to shift their study plan away from Simon's series to a different, smaller book.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions regarding the value of Simon's analysis series, with some advocating for its study while others suggest alternative mathematical topics. There is no consensus on the best approach or the suitability of the series for the original poster's goals.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various mathematical areas and resources, indicating a broad scope of interests and potential study paths. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and preferences regarding mathematical texts and study strategies.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for physics majors interested in deepening their understanding of mathematics, particularly in analysis, as well as for those exploring various mathematical texts and study strategies.

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What are your opinions on Barry Simon's "A Comprehensive Course in Analysis" 5 volume set. I bought them with huge discount (paperback version). But I am not sure should I go through these books? I have 4 years and can spend 12 hours a week on them.

Note- I am now studying real analysis from Bruckner couples two books. Next complex analysis by Greenleaf. So I will start after 7 months. And I am a physics major who studies math for fun and curiosity.
 
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Ganesh Mammu said:
Thanks fresh_42, the poll indicates same author but not same series.
That's what I said. At least it provides some confidence in the author's writing.
 
fresh_42 said:
That's what I said. At least it provides some confidence in the author's writing.
Okay. I am sure that Barry Simon is an excellent author but I want to know how pure math grads or professionals view/review this series. I can't find reviews anywhere.
 
Just an observation. There are other areas of mathematics (algebra, topology, number theory, differential geometry, linear algebra, functional analysis, PDE’s, etc.) that you might want to look into before doing another round of analysis.
 
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caz said:
Just an observation. There are other areas of mathematics (algebra, topology, number theory, differential geometry, linear algebra, functional analysis, PDE’s, etc.) that you might want to look into before doing a second round of analysis
Math wonk is guiding me about algebra. For general topology I just started munkres. Simon's volume 2B covers analytical number theory. But I am not interested in number theory. I decided to start spivak's differential geometry along with Simon's analysis. For PDE's I will take a numerical PDE course. So that's it. I think this plan will keep me busy for next 6 years(12-15 hours a week only). I want to study pure math on par with my "Idiosyncratic" path to study physics.

Thank you for replying!
 
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If you are looking for a book about analysis, that is more along the lines of measure theory, then you should have a look at Hewitt / Stromberg: Real And Abstract Analysis. (GTM 25).
 
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As a physicist you should also never forget to study some (Lie-)group and representation theory!
 
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vanhees71 said:
As a physicist you should also never forget to study some (Lie-)group and representation theory!
P.J. Olver, Applications of Lie Groups to Differential Equations (GTM 107)

The easiest way to representation theory is
J.E. Humphreys, Introduction to Lie Algebras and Representation Theory (GTM 9)

whilst a more sophisticated version is
V.S. Varadarajan, Lie Groups, Lie Algebras, and Their Representation (GTM 102)

And yes, I'm a fan of the GTM series. It guarantees a certain level of quality. Otherwise, you have either to know somebody who recommends good books which also fit you, or do a long search in the library to find out what is best.
 
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fresh_42 said:
P.J. Olver, Applications of Lie Groups to Differential Equations (GTM 107)

The easiest way to representation theory is
J.E. Humphreys, Introduction to Lie Algebras and Representation Theory (GTM 9)

whilst a more sophisticated version is
V.S. Varadarajan, Lie Groups, Lie Algebras, and Their Representation (GTM 102)

And yes, I'm a fan of the GTM series. It guarantees a certain level of quality. Otherwise, you have either to know somebody who recommends good books which also fit you, or do a long search in the library to find out what is best.
Do you physicists do your research like shown on movies(always writing equations on board, thinking deeply etc.) Or how is it?
 
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Mr.Husky said:
Do you physicists do your research like shown on movies(always writing equations on board, thinking deeply etc.) Or how is it?
I had hoped that @vanhees71 would have answered this. He is a) a physicist and b) doing research.

Your question has so many levels that it is hard to answer. I guess a lot of time takes place in the library, to study references, see what others have done so far, and getting inspiration. I personally love chalk and blackboard, but others might not. Paper and pencil are probably important for everybody. Well, with exceptions. Euler was blind in his late days and still produced mathematics. He only needed someone to write it down. But scientists as Euler are definitely the exceptions. I don't know whether thinking deeply always applies. A friend of mine once said: "The genius might have the brilliant idea at night, but he is only a genius if he sits down at his desk the very next morning and elaborates his idea."
 
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Mr.Husky said:
Do you physicists do your research like shown on movies(always writing equations on board, thinking deeply etc.) Or how is it?
I'm a theoretical physicist working in the field of relativistic heavy-ion collisions. In terms of theory what I'm using most of the time is relativistic many-body quantum field theory, relativistic transport theory (derived from there), relativistic hydrodynamics. Usually you sit down with paper and pencil working out your ideas and then use some numerics to evaluate the resulting equations.

Of course, there's also a lot of discussion with colleagues, including students, and these are indeed mostly done on the black board :-).
 
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caz said:
Confession time: I have a favorite pencil
Same. I've used the same mechanical pencil throughtout my education so far, starting with high school upgrading in 2014. A Zebra M100 0.5mm. Every single assignment and exam has been written with it.
 
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